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[Amrit Saini]

Hahahah that transcript had me laughing the whole time.

They don't realize how stupid they sound lol.

[JPB]

i love msn convos

[Amrit Saini]

Yeah, especially when people post them.

You should see mine.

Chinese supplier...

Its not as clear is this one, but its just as entertaining.

[Exceletronics]

Sorry to hear about your loss. Thanks for the heads up!

[MOO2YOU]

Originally Posted by robbobb

Here is a list of some of the scam Alibaba Gold Members - there are far more on the site in Fujian Province, China than is on the list. So, a rule of thumb is never deal with any company from Fujian Province advertising goods at prices which are attractive!

- Xiamen Zhongpin Technology (related website www.1by1trade.com) *this is the fake company that scammed me

- www.chelecroad.com *see here and here

- Chengxiang District Pinglong Clothing Factory (related websites: http://ww.xinlongtrade.com , http://xinlongtrade.photo.163.com)

- Chengsen Import & Export Trade Co., Ltd. (related websites: www.chengsen8.com) *see here

- Fujian Huamin Export & Import Co., Ltd. (related website: http://www.zhonghuatrade.com) * see here

- Fujian Putian Traveling Shoes Factory (related website: http://www.cntopzone.com)

- Fuzhou Hailian Trade Industry Co., Ltd. ( elated websites: http://www.90nike.com, http://www.66ail.com, http://www.90good.com) * see here

- Fuzhou ZhongTianLi Trade Co., Ltd. (related website: http://electronsupply.com) *see here and here

- Hanjiang Shengli Shoes Workshop (related website: http://www.foease.com) *see here

- Huabo Trade Co., Ltd. (related website: http:// www.worldkeytrade.com)

- Huabu Trade Co., Ltd. ( related website: http://www.intowto.com )

- Huiyue Shoes Trade Co., Ltd. (related website: http://www.verynike.com) *see here

- Licheng District Putian Oukai Trade Co., Ltd.

- Longxiang Shoes Co., Ltd. Putian City

- Putian Chengxiang Huacheng Trade Co., Ltd. (related website: http://www.oosoon.com)

- Putian Chenshi Trade Co., Ltd. (related website: http://www.chenmart.com)

- Putian City Chengxiang District Zhaoyan Trade Co., Ltd. (related website: http://www.ainetrade.com)

- Putian Chengxiang Fanya Trade Co., Ltd. (related website: http://www.nbaorg.com)

- Putian City Licheng District Aotewang Trading Limited Company (related website: http://www.aotewang.com)

- Putian Footstar Shoes & Clothes Trade Co., Ltd. (related website: http://www.footstartrade.com)

- Putian Duocai Fabric Co., Ltd. (related website: http://www.yahoosupplier.com, http://www.ft5568.com)

- Putian Hengwang Trade Co., Ltd.

- Putian Junnuo Shoes & Clothes Trade Co., Ltd.

- Putian Kaishun Shoes Co., Ltd. (related website: http://www.kshoestrade.com)

- Putian Soar Shoes and Clothes Trade Co., Ltd. * see here

- Putian Zhonghong Trading Co., Ltd.

- Putian Yihe Trade Co., Ltd. ( related website: http://www.ttyihetrade.com ) *listed since 2006 but only "verified" in June 2007

- Quanzhou Quangang Samsin Trade Co., Ltd. (related websites: http://www.samsinco.com, http://www.samsinmo.com)

- Qingrong Footwear & Apparel Sales Dept. (related website: http://www.cnbestbiz.com ) *used to be on Alibaba

- Sunrise East Asia Culture Art Development Co., Ltd. (related websites: http://www.oilpainting0086.com, http://www.nike0086.com, http://www.mobilephones0086.com, http://oilpainting0086.en.alibaba.com)

- United Trading Co., Ltd. (related website: http://www.unitedaaa.com) * see http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/154503/fraud.htm

- Xiamen Leadteam Trade Co., Ltd. (related website: http://www.lead-team.com)

- Xianyou Zhongyi Trading Co., Ltd. (related websites: http://www.forward9.com, http://www.mobile.forward9.com)

- Yonghui Trade Co., Ltd. (related website: http://www.ecnice.com)

[MOO2YOU]

Common Sense Is Not Always The Easiest Way Too Guide Your Thoughts, Greed Is A Very Very Powerful Emotion That Will End In Your Downfall And Loss Of Your Hard Earned Money . Remember.." A Fool And His Money Are Fair Game On The Internet"

[eurotronics]

haha love the transcript, anyway for a newbie trader this is very valuable info so thanks a lot, but with what im trading i doubt that i will trade with china

but maybe in the future

[gadgetalert101]

rob,

Good stuff
This conversation gave me some good laughs

[MOO2YOU]

FRAUD AND SCAM Quanzhou Quangang Samsin Trade Co., Ltd. THESE ARE CRROKS LIARS CHEATS SCAM AND FRAUD. DO NOT DEAL WITH THEM

Originally Posted by robbobb

I have just been scammed out of $1100 on www.alibaba.com by a Gold Member. I have dealt and still deal with 2 genuine Alibaba sellers, so I do know that there are decent guys out there in China.


The details of the name of the scam person I sent money to was Deyou Chen in Putian City, Fujian, China. The fradulent company was Xiamen Zhongpin Technology and they are no longer registered on Alibaba, but I am sure that they are still on there using some other name.


Anyway, I have greatly analysed myself to see the signs that I could have picked up to indicate that I was dealing with a scammer/fraudster.


I have prepared a list below of all the current Gold Member sellers on Alibaba who I believe are scammers. There are a few clues:


1. These sellers list many items in many different product categories, normally the highly desirable items such as Laptops, Ipods, top or the range mobile phones, PDAs, GPS Navigation systems, Nike trainers/sneakers, bikinis, jewellery, watches, handbags.... This is a big clue that they are out to scam you. Also, some of them state that they are a clothing company yet they are listing products for electrical goods....


2. They are all from Putian City, Fujian Province, China. I have since discovered that this place is rife with fraud.


3. They all request payment via Western Union or T/T (Telegraphic Transfer), where they have bank transfer details it is in the name of a person not a company name. (Please note that I do send money via Western Union to a company that I have been dealing with for 2 years in China, so sending money via Western Union does not necessarily mean that someone is scamming.)


4. They claim to have been trading since before 2007 yet they have only been registered on www.Alibaba.com since 2007. This is another sign of a scam.


5. You will frequently find them available to chat to on Alibab's TradeManager, Yahoo Messenger or MSN at unsociable hours in China. (i.e when most people and legitimate businesses are sleeping in China they are up trying to ensnare you and get you to wire them money. They will give you excuses like they work hard - yes this is correct because they work hard to try to scam you!)


Some of these companies will send you a non-existent tracking no. after you have made payment. The sad thing is that alot of them have been reported to www.Alibaba.com for not sending anything and Alibaba has done absolutely nothing to remove these gold member scammers from their site. I feel like someone with more resources should take some legal action against Alibaba and www.yahoo.com for aiding and abetting rampant fraud. (Yahoo, www.Yahoo.com, owns part of www.Alibaba.com and they get a fee everytime someone registers as a gold member) The way I see it, Alibaba should require extra verification and proof of stock from people applying for Gold membership in Fujian Province, China.


So, I hope I will help prevent others from being scammed too by providing more information on the internet - information which I myself did not have before I sent my money to the female scammer.


The list below contains some of the scammers I have identified. If you are lucky to get your order delivered it will be a fake, like a fake iPhone or a fake Nokia N95. I have read so many instances where people who ordered mobile phones, such as the Nokia N95 have received only what can be described as a toy phone.

[MOO2YOU]

FRAUD AND SCAM Quanzhou Quangang Samsin Trade Co., Ltd. THESE ARE CRROKS LIARS CHEATS SCAM AND FRAUD. DO NOT DEAL WITH THEM

Originally Posted by robbobb

I have just been scammed out of $1100 on www.alibaba.com by a Gold Member. I have dealt and still deal with 2 genuine Alibaba sellers, so I do know that there are decent guys out there in China.


The details of the name of the scam person I sent money to was Deyou Chen in Putian City, Fujian, China. The fradulent company was Xiamen Zhongpin Technology and they are no longer registered on Alibaba, but I am sure that they are still on there using some other name.


Anyway, I have greatly analysed myself to see the signs that I could have picked up to indicate that I was dealing with a scammer/fraudster.


I have prepared a list below of all the current Gold Member sellers on Alibaba who I believe are scammers. There are a few clues:


1. These sellers list many items in many different product categories, normally the highly desirable items such as Laptops, Ipods, top or the range mobile phones, PDAs, GPS Navigation systems, Nike trainers/sneakers, bikinis, jewellery, watches, handbags.... This is a big clue that they are out to scam you. Also, some of them state that they are a clothing company yet they are listing products for electrical goods....


2. They are all from Putian City, Fujian Province, China. I have since discovered that this place is rife with fraud.


3. They all request payment via Western Union or T/T (Telegraphic Transfer), where they have bank transfer details it is in the name of a person not a company name. (Please note that I do send money via Western Union to a company that I have been dealing with for 2 years in China, so sending money via Western Union does not necessarily mean that someone is scamming.)


4. They claim to have been trading since before 2007 yet they have only been registered on www.Alibaba.com since 2007. This is another sign of a scam.


5. You will frequently find them available to chat to on Alibab's TradeManager, Yahoo Messenger or MSN at unsociable hours in China. (i.e when most people and legitimate businesses are sleeping in China they are up trying to ensnare you and get you to wire them money. They will give you excuses like they work hard - yes this is correct because they work hard to try to scam you!)


Some of these companies will send you a non-existent tracking no. after you have made payment. The sad thing is that alot of them have been reported to www.Alibaba.com for not sending anything and Alibaba has done absolutely nothing to remove these gold member scammers from their site. I feel like someone with more resources should take some legal action against Alibaba and www.yahoo.com for aiding and abetting rampant fraud. (Yahoo, www.Yahoo.com, owns part of www.Alibaba.com and they get a fee everytime someone registers as a gold member) The way I see it, Alibaba should require extra verification and proof of stock from people applying for Gold membership in Fujian Province, China.


So, I hope I will help prevent others from being scammed too by providing more information on the internet - information which I myself did not have before I sent my money to the female scammer.


The list below contains some of the scammers I have identified. If you are lucky to get your order delivered it will be a fake, like a fake iPhone or a fake Nokia N95. I have read so many instances where people who ordered mobile phones, such as the Nokia N95 have received only what can be described as a toy phone.