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[tonza71]

Originally Posted by Dr.Lee

I remember their company like "Putian" something this ...

We send 3600$ dollars, want to buy NOKIA AEON. And when Ben tell us, that this "PHONES NO STOCK". After in second day he give us tracking code by EMS, but this code not correct in EMS site. . . Now we don't know what we can do...

I want find this man and want what this human will be in prison.

Whoa Dr.Lee!!! I can understand your frustration, honestly!!

So did you get the tracking number today? If you got the tracking number today, then it sometimes takes up to 3 days to activate in the system. You must give the tracking number a little time to activate as it will keep coming up with nothing UNTIL it's activated.

Also about finding this man and putting him in prison, that would be nice but you would have to be pretty lucky to even find him in the first place if he even exists??

Just ask Ben to check on the tracking number for you on his end, if he is still talking to you that is!

Let me know how you go and if you feel you have been scammed by this company, collect as much information about them as you possibly can!!

Which business to business website are they advertising on?

Hope this helps!!

[Dr.Lee]

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[domenterprise]

You say that you have dealt and still deal with 2 genuine Alibaba sellers, can you list those sellers and the type of product that they sell so i can give them my sales support for being genuine seller

[Dr.Lee]

Originally Posted by domenterprise

You say that you have dealt and still deal with 2 genuine Alibaba sellers, can you list those sellers and the type of product that they sell so i can give them my sales support for being genuine seller

Nokia AEON new mobile phones...

[Kiksi]

i see that i not alone of people who lost money and time...
Everywhere Swindlers and deceivers
Basically I consider myself very cautious and very carefully I investigate the company when I do the order! But... There was that moment of that I always was afraid = the not diligent company has got and on my way

it was company: "Putian Lizhi Trade Co., Ltd."
This is company have good web-site: http://www.lizhitrade.com and is "Gold suplier on Alibaba.com: http://lizhitrade.en.alibaba.com (and their photo-web: http://photo.163.com/photos/lizhi_trade

When I have made inquiry about the goods,they have told that there is all in a stock and when has transferred money, suddenly at once it has appeared that half from my list is not present, explaining to that they have sold it literally yesterday....
then i made choose from this the list that they have gave.

When the goods have come, I was horrified by its quality, I did not think that under quality "AAA grade" there can be worn things!
Now this companion does not answer calls and on messages....

how could this bilker joined in the alibaba and honored to the "Gold member"??
just pay money and YEP: WoW you are "Gold member"
Where truth???? Chinese sellers, be honestly with buyers, because you can lose everyone their!

How many for the person "Gold member" there are not absolutely fair and diligent sellers? All afraid have business with chinese now...

All who work with brand's clothes, Be very cautious!! Because these companies not probably to check up! They have no documents, at some even the office is not present! Them not probably to meet, not probably to check quality...... Not probably to check goods manufacture....Keep your money and time....

[Eve]

as the chinese , i'm very sad to see the infromation .truely speak .
but ,it's really .

the "gold member "is buying form alibaba comapny .how to say , they are pay many many money to Alibaba to get the "gold memeber "

Alibaba don't care the company is good or bad .most company not office ,not the register certification ,a few company have only one person and the only one
person is the boss . so ,everyone must be cautious and carefully .

i would like to let you know ,quality of the Guangdong provice is better than other provice.

[tonza71]

I would really like to know if Dr Lee ever received the tracking number and hopefully by now the goods?

[aussiebuys]

Any fujian company that is a clothes seller and a electronics seller are usually scammers, be careful of this scam, they are most common in china.

[Businessinchina]

Originally Posted by robbobb

I have just been scammed out of $1100 on www.alibaba.com by a Gold Member. I have dealt and still deal with 2 genuine Alibaba sellers, so I do know that there are decent guys out there in China.


The details of the name of the scam person I sent money to was Deyou Chen in Putian City, Fujian, China. The fradulent company was Xiamen Zhongpin Technology and they are no longer registered on Alibaba, but I am sure that they are still on there using some other name.


Anyway, I have greatly analysed myself to see the signs that I could have picked up to indicate that I was dealing with a scammer/fraudster.


I have prepared a list below of all the current Gold Member sellers on Alibaba who I believe are scammers. There are a few clues:


1. These sellers list many items in many different product categories, normally the highly desirable items such as Laptops, Ipods, top or the range mobile phones, PDAs, GPS Navigation systems, Nike trainers/sneakers, bikinis, jewellery, watches, handbags.... This is a big clue that they are out to scam you. Also, some of them state that they are a clothing company yet they are listing products for electrical goods....


2. They are all from Putian City, Fujian Province, China. I have since discovered that this place is rife with fraud.


3. They all request payment via Western Union or T/T (Telegraphic Transfer), where they have bank transfer details it is in the name of a person not a company name. (Please note that I do send money via Western Union to a company that I have been dealing with for 2 years in China, so sending money via Western Union does not necessarily mean that someone is scamming.)


4. They claim to have been trading since before 2007 yet they have only been registered on www.Alibaba.com since 2007. This is another sign of a scam.


5. You will frequently find them available to chat to on Alibab's TradeManager, Yahoo Messenger or MSN at unsociable hours in China. (i.e when most people and legitimate businesses are sleeping in China they are up trying to ensnare you and get you to wire them money. They will give you excuses like they work hard - yes this is correct because they work hard to try to scam you!)


Some of these companies will send you a non-existent tracking no. after you have made payment. The sad thing is that alot of them have been reported to www.Alibaba.com for not sending anything and Alibaba has done absolutely nothing to remove these gold member scammers from their site. I feel like someone with more resources should take some legal action against Alibaba and www.yahoo.com for aiding and abetting rampant fraud. (Yahoo, www.Yahoo.com, owns part of www.Alibaba.com and they get a fee everytime someone registers as a gold member) The way I see it, Alibaba should require extra verification and proof of stock from people applying for Gold membership in Fujian Province, China.


So, I hope I will help prevent others from being scammed too by providing more information on the internet - information which I myself did not have before I sent my money to the female scammer.


The list below contains some of the scammers I have identified. If you are lucky to get your order delivered it will be a fake, like a fake iPhone or a fake Nokia N95. I have read so many instances where people who ordered mobile phones, such as the Nokia N95 have received only what can be described as a toy phone.

Yes, you're totally right.
Please pay attention:
1. Most of the professional scammers are from Fujian province, but recently we also discovered some of them are from Beijing, Guangzhou, Zhengzhou and Shenzhen etc ( because some of the Putian scammers have been rich enough and moved to a new big city now. ) So what a foreign buyer has to do is to do more Due Diligence work before payment in China.

[rk7248]

Don't you think it will be good to mentioned the list to no scammers , so that people like me will be benefited from that.

Originally Posted by robbobb

I have just been scammed out of $1100 on www.alibaba.com by a Gold Member. I have dealt and still deal with 2 genuine Alibaba sellers, so I do know that there are decent guys out there in China.


The details of the name of the scam person I sent money to was Deyou Chen in Putian City, Fujian, China. The fradulent company was Xiamen Zhongpin Technology and they are no longer registered on Alibaba, but I am sure that they are still on there using some other name.


Anyway, I have greatly analysed myself to see the signs that I could have picked up to indicate that I was dealing with a scammer/fraudster.


I have prepared a list below of all the current Gold Member sellers on Alibaba who I believe are scammers. There are a few clues:


1. These sellers list many items in many different product categories, normally the highly desirable items such as Laptops, Ipods, top or the range mobile phones, PDAs, GPS Navigation systems, Nike trainers/sneakers, bikinis, jewellery, watches, handbags.... This is a big clue that they are out to scam you. Also, some of them state that they are a clothing company yet they are listing products for electrical goods....


2. They are all from Putian City, Fujian Province, China. I have since discovered that this place is rife with fraud.


3. They all request payment via Western Union or T/T (Telegraphic Transfer), where they have bank transfer details it is in the name of a person not a company name. (Please note that I do send money via Western Union to a company that I have been dealing with for 2 years in China, so sending money via Western Union does not necessarily mean that someone is scamming.)


4. They claim to have been trading since before 2007 yet they have only been registered on www.Alibaba.com since 2007. This is another sign of a scam.


5. You will frequently find them available to chat to on Alibab's TradeManager, Yahoo Messenger or MSN at unsociable hours in China. (i.e when most people and legitimate businesses are sleeping in China they are up trying to ensnare you and get you to wire them money. They will give you excuses like they work hard - yes this is correct because they work hard to try to scam you!)


Some of these companies will send you a non-existent tracking no. after you have made payment. The sad thing is that alot of them have been reported to www.Alibaba.com for not sending anything and Alibaba has done absolutely nothing to remove these gold member scammers from their site. I feel like someone with more resources should take some legal action against Alibaba and www.yahoo.com for aiding and abetting rampant fraud. (Yahoo, www.Yahoo.com, owns part of www.Alibaba.com and they get a fee everytime someone registers as a gold member) The way I see it, Alibaba should require extra verification and proof of stock from people applying for Gold membership in Fujian Province, China.


So, I hope I will help prevent others from being scammed too by providing more information on the internet - information which I myself did not have before I sent my money to the female scammer.


The list below contains some of the scammers I have identified. If you are lucky to get your order delivered it will be a fake, like a fake iPhone or a fake Nokia N95. I have read so many instances where people who ordered mobile phones, such as the Nokia N95 have received only what can be described as a toy phone.