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Old 09-03-2008, 01:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Dear all users.

i need your help on this. I was scammed by a person in the UK. He told me he worked for just the shop ltd based out in the UK.

I shipped him some goods after his bank manager and himself have faxed a receipt for a money transfer they where about to sent me.

They faxed the copy to my bank manager and afterwards he called the UK bank manager to confirm the transfer.

I shipped out my products and when buyer received them he stopped all contact. and i have not seen any money yet as the transfer was made on the 28-02-08. i shipped the phone through UPS who delivered the package in the UK in a residental area.A guy named Thornton who i was in contact with signed the recipt of that the package was delivered.

1 MONK TERRACE VANCOUVER ROAD
SE23 2AP was the delivery adress of my shipment.

The fax recipt for the money transfer was sent from: Lloyds TSB adressed at:
Lloyds Tsb Bank Plc 1 Marlborough Square Coalville Leicestershire LE67 3WD

The fax contained like 4 pages with the buyers account details, bank account number, sort code, name of bank manager, and signed by them both.

I have shipped him phones for 5125 euro, and no money recived, how is it possible to make these document without being involved into the bank in some way.

I have the following details:

Scammers number:

00 447 795 024 763 Fax : 00 447 092 809 436

Bank manager called: Nicool Young: 0044- (0)8703454024

Email adress: ianthornton@consultant.com

whois info for Email:

X-Message-Delivery: Vj0zLjQuMDt1cz0wO2k9MDtsPTA7YT0x
X-Message-Status: n:0
X-SID-PRA: ian thornton <ianthornton@consultant.com>
X-Message-Info: R00BdL5giqqP2IYfLOgMG+lCeHVQRthSBkJPOhjA9DW2PwqTnp cLrTcx+2k7AVAqmFNFu2D2JhPlrupFlgOol8uVExDnjWEE
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From: "ian thornton" <ianthornton@consultant.com>
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Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 08:08:16 -0500
Subject: ORDER TO FLEX - IMPORT
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I have traced it to be an UK internet provider, now considering a letter for debt collection at the delivery adress.

What do you guys think? as most of you live in the U.K
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Old 09-03-2008, 01:32 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The best thing to do would be to get in contact with a lawyer and get their advice. This is a legal matter, so you should seek professional advice.

Also, that bank is in my town, its only a 5 minute drive away. Do you have an address for this guy? (didn't see whether or not you had posted it). Maybe I could go check it out for you...

EDIT: Just saw you already posted it! That address is in London, so I cannot help. However, that bank is located, like I said, 5 minutes away from me. If theres anything I can do, I'll be more than happy to help. Just let me know.
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Old 09-03-2008, 10:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
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HI PT Games.

Ive sent you a PM
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
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wow! shocking
whats going on with this Mrxanderson ? any news?
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:12 PM   #5 (permalink)
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It is all too easy to edit a scanned copy of an old bank transfer and copy and paster the bank stamp onto new paperwork. You should have waited until you have received cleared funds in your account before releasing the goods.

Nevertheless, it is still fraud.
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Old 03-04-2008, 06:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Default Landline number tracking!

Hi.

Does anyone know how to see the phone provider, or the registred owner of an UK based landline number?

web pages or?
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Old 03-04-2008, 08:42 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Unless you have other info, the phone numbers posted are mobiles, probably PAYG unregistered.

Best of luck, and make sure you neer ship before you receive cleared payment in future.
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Hi.

I was told this was an landline number: 0044- (0)8703454024

also they sent my bank manager a false recipt from that fax number
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I was told this was an landline number: 0044- (0)8703454024
Didn't see that, but it still isn't his number, it is a national rate number, so could be anywhere in the UK, or even call forwarded to any other number.
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Old 04-04-2008, 07:37 PM   #10 (permalink)
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0870 are free and easy to obtain.

Can be forwarded to any UK landline, also mobile numbers, and now internationally aswell.

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