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Old 13-09-2008, 10:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
hello

Murat:
hi
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
how are you
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
where are you from?

Murat:
i am good
Murat:
from Turkey
Murat:
you?
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
china

Murat:
cool
Murat:
how can i help you?
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
help me what?
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
you sell things?

Murat:
you added me to msn
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
yes.

Murat:
so i thought you need something
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
yes i need sell something
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
what do you sell anyway

Murat:
electronics..
Murat:
some clothing as well
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
we sell those items too
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
you are in turky now?

Murat:
yes
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
do you do business with chinese people?

Murat:
sometimes
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
do you exporte something from china? maybe we can provide you

Murat:
where did you get my email from?
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
from a wholesale forum
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
are you mad that i added you?

Murat:
nope
Murat:
just curiosity
Murat:
i do not need fake products at the moment
Murat:
thanks for your interest though
Murat:
i will contact you if i need them
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
oh.it is ok
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
thanks , keep in touch if you need

Murat:
i will
Murat:
thanks
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
i will sell you at a good price
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
by the way what do you normally buy in china? i need to know that

Murat:
from china..
Murat:
only some gadgets
Murat:
or some clothing
Murat:
since almost everything sold in china is fake.. we cant go to branded stuff
Murat:
btw.. prices shown on your website is too expensive for fake shoes
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
really? others sell them at $65

Murat:
$45 for adidas shoes.. i can buy it for this price genuine
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
oh no, they are must be fake

Murat:
no
Murat:
100% genuine
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
you know the genuine adidas are sold at leat 500usd

Murat:
just a friendly advice
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
yes ?

Murat:
if you want to sell something from your website
Murat:
reconsider your prices
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
this is the retail price

Murat:
also.. if you ask people what they buy normally
Murat:
and then that you can provide the same
Murat:
it sounds like you dont really sell anything
Murat:
but your trying to cheat them
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
if you order more it is much cheaper since the shipping cost is very high

Murat:
if you are an honest seller, i want your success..
Murat:
so follow my advices if you can
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
but i have sell a lot of them out and i also tell them they are replica
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
thanks

tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
i mainly sell them to us and england

Murat:
no you can sell of course, not everyone knows the prices..
Murat:
i am just telling that your approach is not right
Murat:
if you are selling something
Murat:
you should directly go to buyer and tell that you sell a specific item
Murat:
when you ask your buyer what do they normally buy cause you need to know that
Murat:
it sounds sneaky
Murat:
if you know what i mean
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
so you mean i am a scammer?

Murat:
i do not mean anything
Murat:
i am saying, if you are not a scammer, you should be careful
Murat:
because you sound like you are
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
i am new staff here and i am not good at selling
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
maybe we think differently
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
if you are a student

Murat:
also.. put a legit address of your company to your website
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
i will not try to sell you anything at all

Murat:
in address field it is only written "china"
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
if you are a businessman
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
and you sell shoes
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
we can do business
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
that what i am thinking
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
that's my way

Murat:
i am not a businessman
Murat:
i am doing business
Murat:
what's ur name btw?
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
ok ,thanks for you advice.
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
i am sophie
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
and yours?

Murat:
is sophie a chinese name?
Murat:
my name is Murat
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
no
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
my chinese name is zhitong zhou
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
do you think i should write this on the website?

Murat:
well..
Murat:
imagine you are buyer
Murat:
and you want to buy stuff etc..
Murat:
do you prefer to know me with my real name
Murat:
or a nickname
Murat:
like Mike
Murat:
which would be better for you?
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
ok i know i will change it!!!

tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
real name

Murat:
and if you are a scammer
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
do you have any other advice?

Murat:
my little piece of advice..
Murat:
look you live in china
Murat:
and you can make a lot of money by being legit
Murat:
if you are a scammer
Murat:
you will cheat only a few people
Murat:
and later you wont have any chance
Murat:
because everyone will know you
Murat:
but if you do legit business
Murat:
you will earn slowly
Murat:
but you will do this job for all your life
Murat:
if you do not really have those shoes in your stock, go find some suppliers for other things.
Murat:
i dont know sell tshirts
Murat:
but make real money
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
oooooooooooooooooooooooook

Murat:
no hard feelings..
Murat:
i am trying to show you the right way before it is late..
Murat:
and also i dont want any naive buyers to be hurt
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
I AM ALREADY BE HURT

Murat:
why ?
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
YOU DONT KNOW?

Murat:
you should be happy that i've talked you this way
Murat:
not hurt
Murat:
this was to show you the real way..
Murat:
i repeat one more time
Murat:
you can find some buyers now
Murat:
and lets say
Murat:
they place order for $5000
Murat:
but this is the only money you would make
Murat:
cause later on you would never sell anything to anyone
Murat:
but if you are legit
Murat:
your profit margins will be low
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
i am a legit seller

Murat:
but you will earn good at the end of the day
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
i just do long term business with people
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
for 4 years

Murat:
look Sophie.. to be honest with you, neither your approach nor ur company website looks legit
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
what do you want to say?

Murat:
i want to say; find some real suppliers, and sell those products in real
Murat:
then i will help you too
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
i really sell them
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
i have sell them for 4 years
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
you dont understand???????

Murat:
how do you do that when you dont have even your company address on ur website?
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
other people made the website for me

Murat:
Posted on: 16 August 2008, 22:39

tradeshoes9.com is a scam, do not use them.

Murat:
look.. if you want to earn your life, do something legit.
Murat:
i told u before
Murat:
you can cheat a few more people
Murat:
but later
Murat:
you will end up with nothing
Murat:
why dont you go find some real suppliers and sell them on internet? there's good money on that.. trust me
Murat:
and for your information, you dont have to tell me that you are legit etc, because i wont buy anything from you
Murat:
we are just having a friendly talk here
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
anyway thanks

Murat:
i think you choose the way you are already doing..
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
you know we have to promote our website

Murat:
it is a pity
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
so we advertise
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
ok, i am a scammer
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
you dont need to talk so much to me
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
and i tell you
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
i am a good girl

Murat:
as i said we are having a friendly talk here
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
why you talk so much
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
i dont want to sell things to you
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
to turkey the shipping cost is very high

Murat:
well if you are a good girl as you said, i want you to earn money
Murat:
thats why i talk so much
Murat:
for your own good
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
thanks!!

Murat:
anytime
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
if you want to tell if we are legit
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
we can keep in touch
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
for however long it is

tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
maybe to you 80s
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
i still use this website
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
selling my stuff

Murat:
i hope so
Murat:
i will be happy to see that
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
ok, let wait and see

Murat:
but if u ever need a real business advice, we can always talk about it
tradeshoes9@hotmail.com:
i will ask you. actually now i need listen to you




so it goes on... Just wanted to warn people here..
Old 13-09-2008, 08:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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are they a scam ?
Old 13-09-2008, 09:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
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yes their added me on msn about 4 different addys
Old 13-09-2008, 10:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
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lol seen it all before , gota give them chinese credit they dont give up!
Old 14-09-2008, 12:31 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I had a very similar conversation with " Sophie " last night

Quite amusing really
I had already blocked one of them from msn

Still she was friendly and didn't give the hard sell as I told her/him that I was not interested from the minute she/he added me
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Old 14-09-2008, 11:24 AM   #6 (permalink)
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i promise here that we are not scamer, and we have done a lot of business worldwide.

our customers can identify if we are good people or not.
fact speaks louder than words.

and all of the people can be here and go to our website: MOD EDIT - url removed! we will always be there welcome you.

just as i said, we will do good business, and enlarge our company, and wont change my name wont run away.

we will contiue provide our customers good quality shoes at best price and good customer service.

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Old 14-09-2008, 11:39 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I had a very similar conversation with " Sophie " last night

Quite amusing really
I had already blocked one of them from msn

Still she was friendly and didn't give the hard sell as I told her/him that I was not interested from the minute she/he added me
yes, we dont push anything on people if they are not interested in my goods. and i hope all the people can be honest.speak with fact.
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yes their added me on msn about 4 different addys
sorry if we bother you.

we just dont want to lost the potential customers.i think if you are a seller you can understand.

but we will not bother you.

sorry again
Old 14-09-2008, 11:46 AM   #9 (permalink)
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but you sell FAKES.... like I pointed out in our conversation its illegal.... the fact that you admit they are fakes does not get them past customs..... or past ebay.... or its customers..... or the police and trading standards.... or the courts
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are they a scam ?
i think you can identify from what we talk about. we are not.
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