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[YNWA]

Originally Posted by Tango34uk

But then another way of looking at it, will be the sellers from say!!!! "China" that sell many items at 0.99 with shipping at £20.00 will no longer be selling, which will leave more customers for the rest of us?

If you buy an item from China for 99p and its say a video game worth £40 in UK. And you dont click on that the £20 post is for the item also, then in my opinion you are thick. Anyone who buys something must surely see this 99p item with £20 post and add the two together, nevertheless they are still getting a deal. But buyers expect too much. Buyers want 99p item and free post.

China sellers are never competition if you offer a decent price. I often sell games for £35.99 and China has them for £25.99, people want UK sellers not Chinese and therefore pay more already. This rule has nothing to do with China or UK sellers, its down to greed in my opinion.

[greedyboy]

I am sure the prices will be structured per shipping method, 1st class, special delivery etc. OBVIOUSLY international shipping will either be exempt or have a higher limit.

[YNWA]

Originally Posted by greedyboy

I am sure the prices will be structured per shipping method, 1st class, special delivery etc. OBVIOUSLY international shipping will either be exempt or have a higher limit.

With eBay you never know.

eBay tell you to offer worldwide shipping to increase sales, but dont offer protection via PayPal fr those overseas sales. So why offer the advice and not protect on it. Once again, down to profit.

[D M]

Of course its about maximizing profit. ebay aren't a charity.

[YNWA]

Originally Posted by D M

Of course its about maximizing profit. ebay aren't a charity.

there is a difference between being a successful business rather than a business that does not look out for 50% of who make that business.

Its ok looking after buyers, but what about the people who make eBay money, the sellers!

Everything eBay bring in helps buyers, they bring in this discount on fees for sellers, but you must qualify by having ratings which are solely dependant on the buyer. If I sell a item and a buyer thinks £1.99 is too much for an item that costs £1.50 in shipping alone. Then what right do they have to affect my ratings, if I offer free postage, how can that have the opportunity to rate me 0 for postage cost?

If Royal Mail take 3 days to deliver, yet eBay offer the info that recorded and 1st class are next day services. Buyers think they should get it next day, therefore rate me lower in my ratings.

All sellers should get the discount, after all you are selling.

Sellers cant leave feedback no more, so someone leaves me a neg for an item they took 2 weeks to pay for, changed address twice, had to report because they didnt collect it. I cant rate that sale even tho its taken 2 weeks of my time, cost me money to post, cost me money to repost. Why dont I get a say in that?

eBay in my mind are taking the p***

[CosmikDebris]

Originally Posted by D M

Of course its about maximizing profit. ebay aren't a charity.

Bingo!! You hit that right on the head. Ebay wants to make as much profit as possible just like we all do.

With the rising cost of food and oil ect., it is natural for people to get as much profit as they can in order to make a living.

Shipping cost doesn't effect my decision in buying an item. I have a certain price set in my mind that I will spend. Whether I pay most of that cost in shipping or for the item makes no difference to me as long as the total cost comes out the same.

[MustHaveMobiles]

Some of the recent changes have started to grind tbh, especially receiving a discount damaging neutral because I insisted that feedback is the conclusion if a happy sale (a Sep issue I blogged about!).

but....

I work to a simple principle, maintain your business in a manner which ultimately provides you with the required margins you are looking for. If the selling venue you utilise is costing to much then change your strategies and adapt other avenues, now I do not know a lot on the forum personally but if you listen to how some of the members that are "in business" (Greedyboy, Pete etc) structure their advice you will see that they simply do not rely on someone else to drive their business. They have adapted and utilise ALL available sale avenues...

I, like many others, started on Ebay and got sucked into the hype of it being the ONLY place to sell online. However I soon realised there were other options and moved my main selling business away from the site, I still run over 300 auctions a week now on there but they are simply traffic driving at cost auctions.

As for the fixed postage, this seems to be Ebay's answer to "fee avoidance" via increased postal prices and lower selling prices trick...this should have the bonus of removing the "china" sellers and also pretty much level the field so that all sellers get a chance at a piece of the pie (as long as there sourcing is up to it in terms of pricing etc).

The issue I see with Ebay at the moment is that they are trying to adopt the Amazon business model but they really do operate in a different market, their core business is AUCTIONS and even with the influx of a B.I.N mentality they still are an AUCTION site and if they chose to structure their business on this core model then surely they have the competitive advantage in the online global marketplace to produce the goods for both sellers and buyers??

[YNWA]

What am saying is this.

I make money on eBay without the seller discounts, having a high postage etc...

BUT

Why should a buyer be in control of my discount? I know they rate the sale but why on such a detailed scale?

How can a buyer who receives free postage (at a cost of £1.50 to myself) then have the opportunity to rate me 0 or 1 out of 5 for postage cost? Is that fair?

If I receive 50 emails in a day and respond to them all within 5 hours is this good communication? eBay themselves as do PayPal take 3 days if not longer to respond to theirs. Given they receive more than me but they also have more employees than me.

How can you discount or reward a sellers performance based on ratings that if you receive 4 out of 5 on something, I would class this good, but even then you dont get a discount.

Basically what I am saying is , eBay are puttting these things in place to make more money, something they are making their sellers make less of.

ebay offers a great audience, but if I sell 5000 items, pay eBay £500+ a month, surely I am entilted to a seller discount if I receive positive feedback, adding user rating based on a sellers personal specification is not fair and should not be used.

eBay is going way off course I think and if they don't change soon. eBay will just become a retail store.

They are already pissing off alot of members and sooner rather than later something will happen.

[greedyboy]

Personally with all the new changes and the ones in the pipeline over the coming months, something has to give. A lot of BIG sellers have shut up shop on ebay. I personally think by the end of the summer, ebay will back track (quietly sweep under the carpet) some of the changes they have introduced.

[MustHaveMobiles]

Originally Posted by greedyboy

Personally with all the new changes and the ones in the pipeline over the coming months, something has to give. A lot of BIG sellers have shut up shop on ebay. I personally think by the end of the summer, ebay will back track (quietly sweep under the carpet) some of the changes they have introduced.

I agree 100%..