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[Saajan]

Originally Posted by geosamm

one of the differences between merchant account and paypal is the customer does not have to leave your site to make payment.

PayPal offer a service which can be implemented in to your site so that the customer can submit their payment without leaving the website.

[greedyboy]

Originally Posted by geosamm

one of the differences between merchant account and paypal is the customer does not have to leave your site to make payment.

With PayPal Pro the same applies, all cards can be processed on your site.

[ADC]

Originally Posted by greedyboy

'As of December 31, 2006 there were approximately 13,200 employees'

Obviously other than the 6 or so you mentioned, the other 12,194 must work for free? Not to mention the millions of square feet they all occupy, hardware, furniture, operating costs, rent, rates, utilities, insurances, security,etc. I suppose they are all supplied free by charities?

As for what planet I am on, it is clearly not the the same one you are on if you can't grasp the basics of 'overheads'.

I am well aware of eBays overheads thank you very much. What I was trying to point out was, is how easy it is for them to make money compared with many other business's.

eBay expects an $8 -$9 billion dollar net turnover this year. On a per employee basis can you think of any other company (apart from oil companies) with that high turnover? I think Tesco did £52 billion on 400,000 employees last year. Which makes ebay nearly 3 times as much per employee.

[PT]

Is anyone else getting fed up of the bashing eBay and PayPal threads? Don’t get me wrong, I’ll be the first to say I don’t agree with many of the changes they’ve made. But people need to ask themselves; would they even be in business without eBay?

They’re in it to make money, just like the majority of us are. So why shouldn’t they make more? Do you wake up and say, ‘oh, I’ll work on a 10% margin now, even though I could be making ten times that amount’? I doubt that.

I’ve noticed a BIG drop in sales on eBay, yet it still continues to be the most time consuming part of the business. But this just gives me the drive to succeed elsewhere, predominately via our website. The image of having a steady flow of sales via our site is great! I’d much rather be in control of all changes, what fees we’re paying, how we accept payment, and not have to worry about feedback blackmail. And does anyone else notice that your customers tend to treat you like a real person?

Tango34UK has the right idea! Take a look at his thread; Ebid here I come.

Basically, what I’m getting at is, if you don’t like it, move on! There are plenty of other places to sell your products out there. However many times you start a new thread on here, or start a petition, they aren’t going to change their plans. Either get used to it, or pack your bags.

[greedyboy]

Originally Posted by ADC

I am well aware of eBays overheads thank you very much.

You don't have to thank me.

What I was trying to point out was, is how easy it is for them to make money compared with many other business's.

It's easy (as you put it) because they have established a business and a very successful one at that. Was it like that from day one? No. I'd imagine it took many sleepless nights, great leadership, lots of investment and a good measure of luck - as with any business.

They are a business and supply a product/service. No different to a plumber or dentist. Just because transactions are carried out over the internet, it doesn't make it 'easy'.

I take orders and send them out, that's easy. A dentist charges £200+ an hour and thats easy. In fact everything is easy if you good at it.

eBay expects an $8 -$9 billion dollar net turnover this year. On a per employee basis can you think of any other company (apart from oil companies) with that high turnover? I think Tesco did £52 billion on 400,000 employees last year. Which makes ebay nearly 3 times as much per employee.

....and therefore you should be applauding them!

Anyway, the fact remains you have the freedom of choice. If you MUST sell on an auction site, there are 100's of them out there and they all cheaper. Problem solved.

[ADC]

Originally Posted by hardwareheroes

If there was a planet called reality check, I doubt he would find you there my friend.

wow resorting to insults now. If you haven't got anything of any value to add, why bother?

[hardwareheroes]

Originally Posted by ADC

wow resorting to insults now. If you haven't got anything of any value to add, why bother?

Can I ask you first as, if you look back at post 47 in this thread, you hurled the first stone? Seems a tad hypocritical asking me that question seeing as you could probably answer it better yourself given that your post was also tinged with sarcasm.

However, in the friendly spirit of these forums, I sincerely apologise as I shouldn't also have stooped so low.

[hardwareheroes]

Originally Posted by ADC

Oh yes I forgot they employ somebody to update everyones feedback score, they have another man who when something is sold he sends out all the e-mails, then there is another man who when he knows you've sold something adds the fees up on his abacus then adds it on to your bill each month. Oh and I forgot that when somebody searches for something there is another man who puts it all in the right order. Yes actually the must employ employ millions of staff thinking about it.

Honestly what planet is greedboy on?

Wish i could learn to quote properly all in one post

[ADC]

Originally Posted by greedyboy

You don't have to thank me.



It's easy (as you put it) because they have established a business and a very successful one at that. Was it like that from day one? No. I'd imagine it took many sleepless nights, great leadership, lots of investment and a good measure of luck - as with any business.

They are a business and supply a product/service. No different to a plumber or dentist. Just because transactions are carried out over the internet, it doesn't make it 'easy'.

I take orders and send them out, that's easy. A dentist charges £200+ an hour and thats easy. In fact everything is easy if you good at it.


....and therefore you should be applauding them!

Anyway, the fact remains you have the freedom of choice. If you MUST sell on an auction site, there are 100's of them out there and they all cheaper. Problem solved.

OK like my business you take orders and send them out. But like me you will need somebody to package them, somebody who will order the stock, someone who will unload your deliveries etc. The point I am making is the sales process with ebay is fully automated. You list an item, they take their fees. The item sells they take their fees. The buyer pays by paypal they take their fees. All done automatically, no human interaction needed. They sell an invisible product that doesn't need any storage space etc. Each sale a plumber makes, he or someone else has to physically do the work. Same with a Dentist. So eBay need a lot less staff, than a normal business that takes that amount of money. Now you must see what i'm getting at?

Sorry if I offended you (greedyboy) with my sarcastic comments earlier but you probably just missed the point of what I was saying.

[connell83]

and the worst thing about it... ebay owns paypal, so basically your paying ebay twice!