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[lighthousedirec]

I don't agree with this ruling at all. I'm sorry but if Louis Vuitton make a bag and charge £1000 for it but then the Chinese produce an exact copy for £20 that's Louis Vuittons problem. If they charged say around £40 for the Louis Vuitton bag in the first place no one would buy the Chinese fakes. Just another example of manufacturers forcing everyone to pay more for things.

A simplistic idea since the Chinese do not produce exact copy, they produce close copies, but anyone who understands the trade can spot a copy reasonably quickly, mainly due to the quality of the materials used etc.

If Louis Vitton sold a bag for £40 people would not want them, people fail to understand it is the high price tag that people are drawn to, to emulate a lifestyle they are unlikely to ever achieve.

One last point, if Louis Vitton did sell at £40 the Chinese would still sell for less.

Different markets demand different products and mark up. I used to import clothing for NEXT and they thought it hilarious that they sold two near identical tops fo women, the first low priced and high quality for the discerning shopper who knew what they were looking at and buying.

The other, cheaply made with inferior material but priced at double the quality item, yet the expensive TAT outsold the lower priced quality item 10 to one. Go igure.

[Costaconsoles]

Originally Posted by ADC

I'm not against people wanting more or expensive items, i'm against items being sold for £1000 that can be produced for £20

unless of course you were having them made for £20 and sold for £1000

[Costaconsoles]

see this argument before about people in poor countries being exploited yet wonder if all the people that moan about it have ever bough their kids a happy meal with the free toy

[brigante112]

I just quickly want to point out I am not moaning, about fakes, exploited kids, about anything really, because in this world that we live in I have come to understand and see that anything goes, probably the only thing I am moaning about, is the moaners who go on about fakes, its tedious, and definitely over the top. I personally have no qualms with it, I buy the real thing that is why my wardrobe is worth over 30k, because I like my labels, and I like the real thing so I buy it, I have the choice to buy fakes but I dont, not because it is wrong or beacuse its ilegal, or anything else, I simply dont, I like the real thing, it proabably gives me a false sense of importance, and false sense of feel good factor.

[MathewLisett]

ADC, im not going to explain it, but you completely mis read what i said

[D M]

Originally Posted by ADC

I'm not against people wanting more or expensive items, i'm against items being sold for £1000 that can be produced for £20

I'm glad you aren't in goverment! I suppose you'd force us to sell for £21?

[lighthousedirec]

I buy the real thing that is why my wardrobe is worth over 30k

You could turn that around and say the wardrobe cost you £30k, it doesn't mean it is worth £30k, might only really be worth £100.

Value is in the eye of the beholder, for what it's worth I agree with you attitude of buying the real thing, a fake Ferrari will always be a fake Ferrari, no matter how cheap it is.

[MathewLisett]

Originally Posted by D M

I'm glad you aren't in goverment!

how do you know the member isnt ha ha .

woudl explain the state of the country at present.

[geosamm]

Originally Posted by brigante112

It is illegal to sell fakes, very well, lets all get on our high moral ground again, but firms who say this is wrong, spout a thousand reason why ect ect, ok good, but its not illegal or should i say immoral to pay wages of tupence to kids in india and china to produce these goods that sell on for large amounts, its not immoral to sell tv sets that are out of date and will be useless in a few years time, thats all ok, I dont understand why we rabbit on about right or wrong, morrals ect ect, because at the end of the day nobody follows the law, rules, morals, 100%.

The difference as I see it is this..... I have no problem with someone charging 1000 or 10000 for a bag or anything else for that matter...... if people want it they will pay it and the profit goes to the maker etc...... fair enough
I do however have a problem with the way some of the articles are produced and the wages paid to the workers..... I dont mind how big the pie is.... as long as all the people concerned in making the pie get a slice.....
I see two different issues here.... one of pricing.... and one of production.
I doubt very much the chinese pay their workers any more than the foreign companies who manufacture in china.... which is shameful to say the least.

[Costaconsoles]

Anyone ever see the panorama show on "exploited" workers in India?

One guy they interviewed said about a European delegation came over and said this was a disgrace etc and this should be stopped. His view was, they pay me low wages compared to European people but Europe more expensive to live. They pay European wages then they will move factory to Europe then I will be out of a job.

Always remember that as on Question time on BBC2 day or two later whatever it was there was a big debate about it.