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[geosamm]

Originally Posted by Costaconsoles

Anyone ever see the panorama show on "exploited" workers in India?

One guy they interviewed said about a European delegation came over and said this was a disgrace etc and this should be stopped. His view was, they pay me low wages compared to European people but Europe more expensive to live. They pay European wages then they will move factory to Europe then I will be out of a job.

Always remember that as on Question time on BBC2 day or two later whatever it was there was a big debate about it.

Cant say I remember the program but I understand the statement..... what I object to is companies paying lower than the nations average for the same job. They should at least try to raise standards a little always being mindful of the local economy and also improve conditions and benefits. These simple measures would not cost too much and have little effect on local economies.

[D M]

It's not the place for businesses to act as humanitarians.

[MathewLisett]

yeah that prog was on not a few nights ago.

but the one that got me was when a programe showed several teenagers from all walks specifically upper styles, soem of which buy and throw away clothese and shoes after just one wearing.

within the first 1 hour they were sick oif working were they were, but still went on, but it changed them forever when they came back. And to be honest it was a fresh sight for myself to actually see the true nature of the industry, espcially when in the block of home made flats going up to a good 80ft high or more, 20% of them were for clothing for high profile companies.

[lighthousedirec]

what I object to is companies paying lower than the nations average for the same job. They should at least try to raise standards a little always being mindful of the local economy and also improve conditions and benefits. These simple measures would not cost too much and have little effect on local economies.

Thats the job of Governments, not companies.

[geosamm]

Originally Posted by lighthousedirec

Thats the job of Governments, not companies.

speaking in general terms it is.... but large industry [comparative] also has a part to play even if it denies its input. If an area is dependent on the industries within it to maintain the equilibrium any major disturbance of that balance will have an effect. Small factories who pay similar salaries all compete for the workforce in that area. If however a larger establishment decides to set up shop within the area and pay western salaries the whole of that LOCAL economy is disrupted. The smaller producers will lose the workforce and either close or move. The local workers who manage to get employment at that scale will become the super rich of the area and buy up all the land leaving the poorer members of the community in a worse position than they started and the ripple effects to the economy will eventually devastate it. This is a simple example to point out the effects at a local level, it is not meant to be all encompassing.

[geosamm]

Originally Posted by D M

It's not the place for businesses to act as humanitarians.

If not then it must be OK to send kids down mines or up chimneys or dig for asbestos,
Its the job of all humanity to act as humanitarians.

[Costaconsoles]

Originally Posted by geosamm

If not then it must be OK to send kids down mines or up chimneys or dig for asbestos,
Its the job of all humanity to act as humanitarians.

My job always has been and always will be is to make money for my family. I took advantage of others misfortune in the past (bought houses that had been repossessed) and will do again when market collapses. Feel guilty? Nope my children are secure for life thats all that matters to me.

[brigante112]

I agree 100%, why should I be humanitarian, when all day long people in a better position than me, who can really make a difference and change things around just end up pissing any help possible down the drain. This is a rat race my friends, and in this great game there is no place for sensitivity.

[ADC]

Originally Posted by lighthousedirec

A simplistic idea since the Chinese do not produce exact copy, they produce close copies, but anyone who understands the trade can spot a copy reasonably quickly, mainly due to the quality of the materials used etc.

If Louis Vitton sold a bag for £40 people would not want them, people fail to understand it is the high price tag that people are drawn to, to emulate a lifestyle they are unlikely to ever achieve.

One last point, if Louis Vitton did sell at £40 the Chinese would still sell for less.

What I am saying is, if the price difference wasn't so great people would probably pay the difference for the original and not bother with the chinese copy. It's the same with DVD's, I used to rent DVD's & copy them when originals were selling for £20+ Now many films are available in HMV, Play, Virgin etc. for £3 and £5 etc I don't bother. I just buy the original.

[ADC]

Originally Posted by Costaconsoles

unless of course you were having them made for £20 and sold for £1000

yes but i wouldn't sell for a £1000 if i new someone could nick my design and undercut me.