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Originally Posted by Costaconsoles
So you have not tried many then.
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Sorry that was an example of my poor sense of humor

You can safely say I have done business in China quite a
few times more than once or twice.
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Look i know 100% that not every company in China does fake goods. How? Because I have been there we arranged Millions of Dollars of investment for companies producing all sorts of goods from China and believe me everything was checked so I know from experience that its not all fake. Yes I know there are fakes being produced again we did see that first hand but dont tarnish the fastest growing economy in the world with being fakes if you have only had 2 bad experiences.
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I am fully aware of genuine product manufacturing in China, afterall we have our own products manufactured there!
Genuine ODM is a total different ball game. It's laughable when you think you can source 10 genuine Nokia BT headsets from a factory in Shenzhen.
In fact, in SEG, you can buy Nokia, Samsung, Dell, HP, you name it, intel inside, CE, ROHS logo badges to put on your products, along with boxes, stickers, labels, cases, barcodes etc. And guess what? None of them have ever been to a genuine ODM contacted factory in their life!
Also what else is laughable is that the seller's cousin, uncle, goldfish works in the factory 'and gets them cheap', despite nearly all brand owners having their own people within the factory, especially QC staff!