25-06-2008, 02:04 AM
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Oh, I think the entire world gets to see how well the decider speaks, and thinks for that matter. Not for much longer, however.
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25-06-2008, 03:56 PM
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I wish prime ministers had a limited term in fact political parties should only be allowed to hold office for a set period.... no more than 5 years... and be accountable.... we can all dream eh
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25-06-2008, 04:02 PM
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I wish prime ministers had a limited term in fact political parties should only be allowed to hold office for a set period.... no more than 5 years... and be accountable.... we can all dream eh
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Often that results in short termist policies and decisions which are reversed by subsequent office holders. The up and down effect on the economy usually spells disaster and I have to disagree with you I am afraid.
Longer spells in government for those that deserve it give time to fashion effective policy and take the long term outlook which is better for everyone.
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25-06-2008, 04:34 PM
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In Virginia we have a one 4 year term for governors. It's great when you get a kook, but there are times it would be nice to keep a good one a second term.
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25-06-2008, 04:49 PM
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but what happens when you are in for the long term and they run out of ideas.... or they cant blame the previous party incumbents for the mess they and we are in. Or what happens if you find they are total incompetents but because of majorities and party politics you cant shift em. Any party or person taking control of the UK government can overturn any law or enactment previously enforced by its predecessors... as lord cooper said in a Scottish fishing case "Its not a question of what the government can or cant do, its a question of who can stop them" [I think]
At the end of the day I dont think there is any long term stability around any more.... the world arena has moved from the big few countries who control monies and markets to world wide shifts in control of manufacturing and production and the financial bias has moved with it.
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28-06-2008, 11:52 AM
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but what happens when you are in for the long term and they run out of ideas.... or they cant blame the previous party incumbents for the mess they and we are in. Or what happens if you find they are total incompetents but because of majorities and party politics you cant shift em. Any party or person taking control of the UK government can overturn any law or enactment previously enforced by its predecessors... as lord cooper said in a Scottish fishing case "Its not a question of what the government can or cant do, its a question of who can stop them" [I think]
At the end of the day I dont think there is any long term stability around any more.... the world arena has moved from the big few countries who control monies and markets to world wide shifts in control of manufacturing and production and the financial bias has moved with it.
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We'll have to agree to disagree. I personally feel that there are many achievements which would have not been possible if government changed more often. e.g Maggie Thatcher destroyed the power of the unions over a long term period after they had brought the UK to its knees financially / industrially. If Maggie had been ousted after one term, labour would have got back into bed with their union buddies and things would have gone from awful to worse. However, as it turned out, it was good for the country and, as such, New labour when they eventually did regain power sought not to empower the unions again as it had been shown how succesful the previous governments policy was.
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28-06-2008, 11:54 AM
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but what happens when you are in for the long term and they run out of ideas.... or they cant blame the previous party incumbents for the mess they and we are in.
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Thats why my earlier post was cleverly worded - "for those who deserve it" was the phrase I used
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28-06-2008, 01:32 PM
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We'll have to agree to disagree. I personally feel that there are many achievements which would have not been possible if government changed more often. e.g Maggie Thatcher destroyed the power of the unions over a long term period after they had brought the UK to its knees financially / industrially. If Maggie had been ousted after one term, labour would have got back into bed with their union buddies and things would have gone from awful to worse. However, as it turned out, it was good for the country and, as such, New labour when they eventually did regain power sought not to empower the unions again as it had been shown how succesful the previous governments policy was.
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so successful they didnt change any of the policies. but still blamed the tories for the problems
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28-06-2008, 02:29 PM
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so successful they didnt change any of the policies. but still blamed the tories for the problems
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Thats politics
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28-06-2008, 06:33 PM
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She is my hero
http://listverse.com/people/top-25-q...aret-thatcher/
Take heed: Pennies don’t fall from heaven - they have to be earned here on earth!!!!!!!
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