The Wholesale Forums

[TheNiceGuyOK]

Originally Posted by CGIINC

Where does the broker chain end?! I can see maybe dealing 2 deep... but 3+ deep... that's a lot of money and product to keep track of!

I have a feeling that finding a supplier is going to be harder than I thought....

Anyone have any good leads?

Again, let me explain to you guys something.


Wholesale is not a way to buy products "cheap" and sell them on ebay and get rich. It does not work that way at all, and never will. If that was the case, everyone and their mother would be doing it.



Second, You won't find 4GB ipod nanos for $165, or xbox 360 premium systems for $280. Why? Because retailers don't even get products that cheap. I just found out, bestbuy gets the xbox 360s for $20 under retail. And they purchased 55k of them!


Just because you buy more units does not mean that you will get the item cheaper. It cost money to manufactor things, and to labor things. Get serious people, you won't find someone that will have an "on going supply" of products. Yes, sometimes you can find items cheap, but there is always a limited supply. I found out today that the so called " manufactors and factories" in singapore, hong kong, and china are selling you stolen/ unauthorized goods. It is basicly the same thing as buying " bootleg" movies, and music. What happens is someone who works at the factory, will sell the products behind microsoft or sony's back. 90% of the time they are products that have defects or were built from spare parts. The only real way to get wholesale, is by buying from an authorized ( yes, thats the big word authorized) sony or microsoft wholesaler. It might cost you some more money, but it is worth it in the long run.


Some factories are legit like Apple China
and some arn't

[simone17]

Brandon
While I dont necessarily disagree with you. . .I just wanted to get some input from you and Guru4us about the order for 20k units he put together.
Do you think they are unauthorized goods?? Or do you think microsoft or these manufacturers have a back door system to sell extra product. Seems kind of crazy these MFGs can produce and split with hundreds of thousands of units. Inevitably MS is still responsible for any units out there. How can a giant like MS let this happen? Makes me think MS is selling them out the back door!!!
Guru, Brandon, anyone what are your thoughts on this?

[TheNiceGuyOK]

Originally Posted by simone17

Brandon
While I dont necessarily disagree with you. . .I just wanted to get some input from you and Guru4us about the order for 20k units he put together.
Do you think they are unauthorized goods?? Or do you think microsoft or these manufacturers have a back door system to sell extra product. Seems kind of crazy these MFGs can produce and split with hundreds of thousands of units. Inevitably MS is still responsible for any units out there. How can a giant like MS let this happen? Makes me think MS is selling them out the back door!!!
Guru, Brandon, anyone what are your thoughts on this?

If it is coming from Guru, it is 100% legit. Harry checks out all of his suppliers 200% before he orders anything. Harry gets everything from authorized factories, so you have nothing to worry about.

Now for my side.


If these "factories" could do production runs for 200k etc, don't you think they would already have these in physical stock and ready to sell?

I got an inside feed from someone today, and they told me exactly how this works. Everyone that reads this will be very suprised.
"
Have you ever heard of replica shoes, and replica shirts? As you know, Asia produces many different products due to its cheap labor. Well with cheap labor, comes big bosses. As some of you may know, polo, nike, and many other companies are having problems with people producing grade A+ fakes which are almost impossible to tell the difference from authentics.

Well now, it appears the problem has hit electronics. Factories ( privately owned) are producing ipods at a very high rate. Sad thing is, these are what you could call " fake ipods". Now it all depends on what you call "fake". The only difference, is these ipods don't have boxes because they can't produce REAL serial numbers. Once they figure out how to produce real serial numbers and boxes, apple is going to be in a hell alot of trouble. This means, there is NO warrenty on the ipods.

The best example is the new xbox 360 premium console. Right now, fakes are being produced. Only with these, you can easily tell the difference. The poor quality, and "rushed" SGS inspection should give you a hint. You have to think, if these guys can get you to pay around 10 million for 300k plus production run, 90% of that is pure profit. Their goal is for it to pass inspection, and once it passes inspection you are screwed. A good example of this is ---------. They just scammed people for a reported 60 mill+, and are now out of business. They don't answer the phones anymore, or respond to emails. At one point they were a legit company, but I guess greed gets everyone sooner or later. They still could be legit, and just had a screw up.

Their are legit suppliers ( I can name a bunch that will charge $200 for psps, which is still a very good price) but the ones who arn't far out number those who are.

"




I will update this thread with the rest later, but it is in a PDF format from a friend of mine and I have to re type everything.

[SiinMan]

Originally Posted by gamerzgalore

If it is coming from Guru, it is 100% legit. Harry checks out all of his suppliers 200% before he orders anything. Harry gets everything from authorized factories, so you have nothing to worry about.

Now for my side.


If these "factories" could do production runs for 200k etc, don't you think they would already have these in physical stock and ready to sell?

I got an inside feed from someone today, and they told me exactly how this works. Everyone that reads this will be very suprised.
"
Have you ever heard of replica shoes, and replica shirts? As you know, Asia produces many different products due to its cheap labor. Well with cheap labor, comes big bosses. As some of you may know, polo, nike, and many other companies are having problems with people producing grade A+ fakes which are almost impossible to tell the difference from authentics.

Well now, it appears the problem has hit electronics. Factories ( privately owned) are producing ipods at a very high rate. Sad thing is, these are what you could call " fake ipods". Now it all depends on what you call "fake". The only difference, is these ipods don't have boxes because they can't produce REAL serial numbers. Once they figure out how to produce real serial numbers and boxes, apple is going to be in a hell alot of trouble. This means, there is NO warrenty on the ipods.


"
If it is coming from Guru, it is 100% legit. Harry checks out all of his suppliers 200% before he orders anything. Harry gets everything from authorized factories, so you have nothing to worry about.

Now I think Guru is just fine and is legit so Guru dont take offense to this. But how do you know all of this info? Have you baught from him? Checked all the serial numbers and such?



I will update this thread with the rest later, but it is in a PDF format from a friend of mine and I have to re type everything.

Use a PDF Convertor and make it a JPG and just upload it to a free server. A lot easier then retyping it. lol

Either that or print it out and scan it. Then upload it. With you having a company and all you should have all of that stuff.

[TheNiceGuyOK]

I would, but I need to re-word it a little ( unless I would get banned again)

[SiinMan]

awww ok

[simone17]

just white out what you need to and scan

[TheNiceGuyOK]

update ( still not done, but I added alot)

[net2go]

side news - there are only 3 big china based factories producing these authentic xbox 360s, and the US versions are all coming to Gamestop, Futureshop, and any other nationwide companies

[CGIINC]

Originally Posted by gamerzgalore

Again, let me explain to you guys something.


Wholesale is not a way to buy products "cheap" and sell them on ebay and get rich. It does not work that way at all, and never will. If that was the case, everyone and their mother would be doing it.



Second, You won't find 4GB ipod nanos for $165, or xbox 360 premium systems for $280. Why? Because retailers don't even get products that cheap. I just found out, bestbuy gets the xbox 360s for $20 under retail. And they purchased 55k of them!


Just because you buy more units does not mean that you will get the item cheaper. It cost money to manufactor things, and to labor things. Get serious people, you won't find someone that will have an "on going supply" of products. Yes, sometimes you can find items cheap, but there is always a limited supply. I found out today that the so called " manufactors and factories" in singapore, hong kong, and china are selling you stolen/ unauthorized goods. It is basicly the same thing as buying " bootleg" movies, and music. What happens is someone who works at the factory, will sell the products behind microsoft or sony's back. 90% of the time they are products that have defects or were built from spare parts. The only real way to get wholesale, is by buying from an authorized ( yes, thats the big word authorized) sony or microsoft wholesaler. It might cost you some more money, but it is worth it in the long run.


Some factories are legit like Apple China
and some arn't

Your rhetoric is totally off-subject. My biggest concern about "the game" is that broker A would buy supplies from broker B and he buys supplies from broker C who gets his stock from broker D. Who as we all know broker D will have some problem with the order and *[ ]* rolls down hill as we say it. But none-the-less, thanks for the lesson on where and how consoles are made. I said I am willing to go 2-levels deep to cut down on liability.