Hey guys, new to forums, I've read and learned a lot here and I'm glad that theres a place where wholesalers can discuss their experiences/tips, ec.

Anyway, I know Western Union is THE MOST UNSAFE way to pay. Howver this guy sent me this "business proposition", it looks somewhat legitimate but I still have my doubts. Normally, I would dismiss it, but I wanted to ask you guys for your opinion..


Here is EXACTLY how I propose you to make a safe deal:
You go to your nearest WU branch and deposit the money
you have to pay me on a RANDOM name ( EG your
friend name, your wife name... etc. ) but the address
will be mine.
After you deposit the money you will receive the
receipt ( your Send Money Form paper copy ). Scan it
and send it back to me in JPEG format. In this
way I make sure you that the money have been deposited
correctly and I see you don't want to
cheat me.Once I receive the scanned receipt from you,
I will IMMEDIATELY ship you the items.
After you will receive the items you have 2 days to
inspect and test them. If all is OK, you will
have to go on Western Union and modify the
transferdetails by changing the receiver name with my
name
so I can collect the money. And our deal ends there.
If you are not satisfied with the items, you can send
them back to me and securely withdraw the money
you have deposited at Western Union.
It's a 100% safe deal for both of us. Your big
advantage: you can inspect the items before I get
payed.
If this is ok for you reply me asap

Details about the company:

We are a serious company here in Italy Rome we are verify by Alibaba agents and Alibaba respond for us. We are a large manufacture company and we supply all companys recently we had an order of 5000 Ipods in UK. Our company has a fast delivery 24 hours. Also our company has she's own terms(payment and shipping).
Established in 1999, our company is engaged in the manufacturing of color televisions, MP3, ipods, TV cabinets and chassis, and related ckd and skd components. Located in Italy,ltd, our factory facilities cover a total area of more than 30,000 we are a trading company. We offer product design service for a lots of manufactories, also we are agent of these products. So we always have the new products. We can help you to find business opportunity in Worldwide marketplace.
The goods are brand new in box nerver used,will come with all accesories and all original documents.
I`m here and waiting your honest answer.
Thank`s.

Any good questions I should ask this guy before I commit to anything? Or should I just write it off as a scam? I would appreciate your input.

Thanks a lot, and I hope to become a bigger part of these discussions.

LOL! if their company is THAT big, tell them you will only use L/C as payment, and you want an SGS inspector to verify stock first. Alternatively, tell them you want to do a fly and buy.
Also ask for their bank details, tell them you will call up the bank and talk about their company and their standing...
Also ask for trade references and company registration details

I'm 99.99999% sure they sound like scammers
Anyway, in all, i'd say, when u do ask those questions i mentioned above, you'll never back from them. and then write off this *#*&^$ as a scammer. (go ahead and make a post about them in the name and shame section just start a new thread there and put down the name of the company)

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and now for the whammer

even if u put his address but not his name, he can still pick up the money anyway. the reason he asked for a scan of the receipt is because all he needs is the Money Transfer Protocol Number. He'll take that number to the nearest WU agent and then cash the money.

Hope it helps

Why don't go to italy and inspect the goods yourself before paying

Scam, end of convo!

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yep. i knew that from the start

Deffo a scam, this is excatly how it works - Trust me!

You send him the copy of the receipt with different names on it thinking you are safe as you need ID to receive money, right?

Wrong! In europe, especially Italy the security is very slack at Western Union branches, especially if the scammer know someone who works there. as long as he has th MTCN he will be able to collect the money no matter who's name is on the receipet.

DO NOT SEND MONEY THIS WAY!!

Dont even fall for the password protection aspect, all Western Union payments (even password protected ones) can be retreived WITHOUT the password.....

Western Union is only for people you know, ie. family/friends. Please avoid anything else with them.

Mike

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and dont forget that larger companies usually give u more options of payment than WU. a lot will deal with Letter of Credit, or T/T

Thanks for the help guys. Definitely deleting a lot of e-mails. I figured it was too good to be true.

Even Western union warn about using their service on their site....thats how bad it is!!!

Mike

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