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Old 13-07-2009, 11:29 PM   #21
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Youd have to be 100% sure

Old 14-07-2009, 01:02 AM   #22
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"It would be best if you stopped now, realised your mistake, and change your ways."

Start with the man in the mirror.....

(Sorry, bad crack i know...couldn't resist though)

Old 14-07-2009, 03:09 PM   #23
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WoodleyB you are starting to sound really pathetic son!
Secondly you are another person who it seems do not read my posts carefully i do not personally sell any counterfeit goods of any kind ok so please understand that fact before you go and accuse people of things without just cause.
However i stand by my comments and will not retract any opinions of mine and certainly not for somebody such as you.
Forums are here for people to express their thoughts and opinions without bias of any kind that is part of the process of the game and i have my own forum as well now.
Thank you have a good day everyone.

Old 14-07-2009, 03:14 PM   #24
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Never once did I sound "really pathetic".
Anyone other than ForumReader who believes I am pathetic, please speak up...anybody...anybody? Oh just you then!

Like you said, all about expressing an opinion.
My opnion, which I share with 99.9% of the forum is that counterfeit items are frowned upon.
You spoke about knowing about counterfeit items, and that buyers would happily purchase them due to the low value?
Not true in the slightest.

Feel free to voice your opinion, but prepare to be ridiculed for it - I wont sit here and let some forum member go on and talk absolute DRIBBLE about how majority of MJ fans would prefer counterfeit goods!
Find me a genuine statistic that backs up your point, and I'll keep quite. Except you wont find one!

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WoodleyB you are starting to sound really pathetic son!
Secondly you are another person who it seems do not read my posts carefully i do not personally sell any counterfeit goods of any kind ok so please understand that fact before you go and accuse people of things without just cause.
However i stand by my comments and will not retract any opinions of mine and certainly not for somebody such as you.
Forums are here for people to express their thoughts and opinions without bias of any kind that is part of the process of the game and i have my own forum as well now.
Thank you have a good day everyone.

Old 14-07-2009, 03:46 PM   #25
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Woodley the people who deal in such stuff of which there are plenty have enough sense not to advertise the fact esp on a forum like this.
You started making assumptions and accusations against me with no validity based on my opinions of which are very much fact.
Plus i am very much a music fan myself another thing you seemed to have very much of overlooked.
There is no point in engaging in talk with people who have a one sided and bias overview of a subject who easily get hot headed when they are scrutinised and as of such any further discussion in this matter is futile.

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You started making assumptions and accusations against me with no validity based on my opinions of which are very much fact..
Never once made an assumption.
You asked for someones opinion on selling these, I gave it.
You returned by saying that you dont see any problem dealing with this.
I replied saying majority of forum members would have issues with this.
Which they did. Some stated this.

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Plus i am very much a music fan myself another thing you seemed to have very much of overlooked..
Now may I ask how I was supposed to gather that you are a music fan? I therefore didnt overlook this point.
What music fan wishes to ask people their opinions on counterfeit goods?
Some 'fan' you are.

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There is no point in engaging in talk with people who have a one sided and bias overview of a subject.
Why would I consider arguing the case FOR selling counterfeit goods?
Last time I checked I was an honest and decent seller, and I plan to stay that way.
But well done you for prooving to the forum how unscrupulous you are capable of being.

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who easily get hot headed when they are scrutinised and as of such any further discussion in this matter is futile.
Please, find an example where I was apparantly 'hot headed' and quote me on it.
I am passionate about business, and as such DESPISE those who are out to make a quick buck by selling fake goods.
So I'll argue my case AGAINST the selling of fake goods.
And if you are that stupid to continue arguing the case that its ok to sell that stuff, then I'll do my best to drum it into your empty skull that its not right to do so.

I mean, I am talking to the person who said something along the lines of "Im sure most fans will be happy to buy fake goods at a cheaper price." and that they'd "rather by the fake goods as opposed to the real deal"

What planet are you on may I ask?

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Woodley do you have any vested interests in the music industry may i ask because people with vested interests are usually the first to jump to defence.
As a music fan it means i am a consumer also so my points about official and unofficial product will have some real bearing work it out!
People have been selling recordings of live concerts and stuff for years and years at market stalls, boots etc and the fact is the music fan will seek after that product to satisfy their craving for it if not simply because officially it never exists and most likely never will. Of course the record companys have gotten wise to the fact and started coming out with official bootlegs. Jimi Hendrix is one artist that comes to mind here.
The record industry has been one big rip artist in its own rights over the years but as they hold copyright officially they have the standing legally.
As for the rest of this disagreement the tone and content of your posts speak for themselves.

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So now your argument goes off onto a completely differnet tangent. Nice.

Why not openly state you agree with illegal downloads! Thats the argument you seem to be reaching.

How can you go on at me about not listening to your side of the argument? When you fail to realise your own mistakes as well as plain stupidity.

The fact is, no one on the forum considers your argument as viable. Nor will they ever.
By all means deal with counterfeit goods, but you are just asking yourself for a one way ticket to being banned from the forums.

Good luck with your dodging dealings.
Karma, what goes around comes around.

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You have just started again making false assumptions and accusations again because you disagree with my points of view which according to you means i shoulden't be here.
Get your own forum to play with then you can play the Gestapo all you want!

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You have just started again making false assumptions and accusations again because you disagree with my points of view which according to you means i shoulden't be here.
Get your own forum to play with then you can play the Gestapo all you want!
Actually, I was warning you that any signs of counterfeit goods on the forums results in being banned - there are strict controls on the forum, and have seen many people banned - to ensure that everything discussed or debated or offered on the forum is 100% legal goods.

You are in no position to tell me to 'move on' to another forum.
The time I have spent on the forum, I have helped countless people, as well ask for help when needed. This is reflected, I guess, on my posts made, and the number of times I have been thanked.

Whereas you have come, have rubbed people the wrong way, and left a bad impression. Not good in my opinion.

We wont ever agree here.
You believe selling dodgy goods is acceptable, and I dont (along with everyone else).
Its strange you would argue this, because in another post of yours, you spoke about knowing an ebay member who was banned and questioned by police because he sold pirate DVDs - surely this would have deterred you from considering the products in question?
There we have it, my opinion backed up with facts.

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