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Old 09-08-2007, 12:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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hi i just wondered how much capital roughly would i need to start a clothing website selling the likes of armani , d&g , hugo boss etc etc . i know i can get a website for a few hundred pounds but im more interested in how much would the stock cost ? how much do you think it would be to start a shop like this one - www.psdw.co.uk im jst looking a rough guide if anyone would know also how about this bigger website - www.milanclothing.com and finally a even bigger website - www.bbclothing.com im looking to know this so i can set myself targets so i can see how long it will take to get the money together thanks for the help guys
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You can start for very little indeed. Here is the minimum you need:

A domain name. If your target market is UK, anything which ends in .co.uk can be picked up for around £9.95 + VAT = £11.69 (that's part of my other business but I mustn't plug it here )

Some space on a web server - there are many cheap, or even free, web hosting services out there. Google is your friend. That's another part of my business, but you can get far cheaper. I offer a more personalised service for hosting and design.

Some shop-type software. OSCommerce and Zen Cart are both superb and, as it happens, both free to download and use, including for commercial purposes. Your web host needs to supply servers with PHP and MySQL enabled to use either of these.

Payment gateway/merchant account. You can start off with Paypal and/or Google Pay - both free to set up and their commission is deducted before they pass payment on to you.

Some stock. Why not start off with "virtual" stock? Again, Google is your friend. There is a section on these boards about dropshipping and if you do a google on dropshipping, you will find many, many more sources of information.

So off you go. You can start off modestly and learn, whilst putting the money together for something more ambitious.

If this helps, please keep us informed on how you get on.

Good luck with it.

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you will need your domain name and hosting which will cost around £50 for something decent. If you dont have the programming skills then i suggest you pay for a template or a web designer to design your website as appearance means alot. Then it is up to you to find the right suppliers at the right prices for those products.

You may want to integrate SSL into your site for secure payments and obtain a merchant account, paypal and google checkout as these are good to integrate but most of this costs money, possibly a few hundred pounds.
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As you state you have a rough idea of site costs and are looking for stock costs then all I can add is that that is really dependent on your supplier and buying ability. If you acquire a dropshipper then this will severely reduce your stock costs whereas if you go bulk buy then this will obviously be significantly higher. Unfortunately I dont think anyone will be able to give you a rough guide without it being a guess or there are specific quantities to calculate upon..
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it still makes sense to start off small, modest and cheap. That offers the opportunity to learn all about web site marketing, improving design and generally making the "visitor experience" better. You'll develop a clear idea of what sells well and what does not, which marketing tools work and which do not, without spending money. Just hard work and all the frustration that goes with the learning curve, but no money. When the money is there to invest in wholesale supply and bigger margins, you are less likely to be left with stocks of stuff that simply does not move.

If there is no money to spend at this point, it can't be wasted. When you are ready to spend some real money, you'll be aware of many of the pitfalls so are likely to be making worthwhile investments. By then, your web site is likely to be a real asset with a visitor base, possibly a good emailing list and other well developed marketing tools. IMHO, that beats having to start from scratch by quite some way.

There are loads of perfectly good, indeed high class in many cases, templates and software for e-commerce, on the web, available free. Unless you've seen them and compared them with what you have in mind, titanwholesale, I fail to understand why you're suggesting throwing money at it? For instance, I've given two good, free, shopping cart with inbuilt CMS - no programming skills required, in other words - examples above.

SSL and all the other stuff doesn't have to be in place on day one, either. I'd like to ensure I can get the number of sales at the required margins to justify such costs, first. Both of the payment methods I've suggested, and you've nearly concurred with them, titanwholesale, have gateway and merchant account built in at no cost. Only when these methods become an impediment to making more sales, should the expensive options be considered at a time when budgets are tight.

BTW, Google Checkout, from what I have gathered, works a bit like escrow. That means if you try the dropship option, you'll still have to pay for the goods before you get paid. I'd stick with Google Pay, in that case. Of course, if you already have the stocks, that is not important. Paypal, by the way, is a breeze to integrate and most of the free shopping cart utilities, including the ones I mentioned, come with it built in. Doubtless Google Pay will be, too, as the developers move towards the next releases. So, once again, no programming skills required.

So thanks for joining in, titanwholesale. You've given me the opportunity to show it can be done with a very modest budget and without any programming or web development skills to speak of.

Best regards,

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hi thanks for the replys guys i wouldnt be interested in dropshipping as its pretty impossible to find one that sells designer clothes apart from image , thats if they still do ! and id want to be in full control of the business anyway so that would be out of the window . if i got a website up and running i could then go striaght to the brands themselves is this correct ? or would i need a bricks and mortar shop ? maybe getting a shop up my local town would be a better option as its crying out for a designer clothes shop . i understand this would cost a lot more money than a website but if i didnt get up in the google rankings then its like having a shop on the otherside of mars . how many runs of each product would a average shop buy ? say 3 runs of each ? im sure many people dont know this but if ther is anyone with a clothes website are even a shop that could give me some advice id be very grateful thanks for the replys again chris
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Hi Mike

You talk about 'free' tools to help you set up the site. Could you give me some liknks to be able to do that as I am also trying to set up a site but havnt got a clue. Thanks
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Hi, Brandsearcher,

If I can keep my eyes open long enough, here are a couple of links for you. Flying visit for reasons stated elsewhere. As mentioned above,

First thing is you need somewhere to put your site. My advice is to go for Linux or FreeBSD type hosting. They are all operating systems developed from a now defunct but very robust operating system called Unix. The ones I mentioned are free. Proprietary versions include Sun Solaris, a couple of IBM server systems, among others.

You may have to pay a little for Linux hosting, but not very much and then most things you put on it can be free. among the free applications are

Zen Cart: http://www.zen-cart.com/
osCommerce: http://www.oscommerce.com/

and to help you put it together, try Joomla: http://www.joomla.org/

For accepting payments, start off with Paypal and Googlepay, plus a few other free (to set up) options mentioned elsewhere by Anthony and others.

Once you have the site up and running, let people know the site is there. Google is your friend for tutorials, assistance, tips and other stuff on how to get seen. Visit and use tooter -jeez, it's about time I took up an affiliation for Robert's site, I recommend it so often without payment! I really do believe - and I stay up with web site marketing because it's an important part of my main business - it's the doggy's doohdahs of research and application on what the current state of search engines is about.

Give me another week, two at most, and I'll be putting a sales pitch into that as a registered reseller, I would think. So search the web while I'm still talking as an "uninterested observer".
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You might also want to thin about advertiseing... without it you will have a website with no sales.. good seo and online marketing can be pretty pricey.

Maybe get stock.. sell on ebay while you work on the site..
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The tooter link above is all about web site marketing, adam2007. You don't need lots, or even a little, money, unless you want to pay someone else to do it for you. But you do need to be prepared to put in a lot of hard work.
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