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Old 28-12-2006, 07:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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if someone can help us to read this site or to explain how doing buisness with this site, it seems to be a very good site : http://www.pconline.com.cn/

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the best way is to translate the website with google. heres the link http://translate.google.com/translat...ial%26hs%3DwTf

please note that chinese websites are down at the moment because of the earthquake
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Thanks, if someone try to find their price and how to buy
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the site isn't really working for me at the moment so i cant really check it. you will either need to register with them or you will have to email them about their prices. dont try dealing with them before you have checked that they are legit and canada is the best man to do that so wait for him to come online and in the meantime i will try
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ok ive done a whois on them and this is what ive found

Domain Name: pconline.com.cn
ROID: 20021209s10011s00108010-cn
Domain Status: ok
Registrant Organization: 广州太平洋电脑信息咨询有限公司
Registrant Name: å¼ èªæ•
Administrative Email:
Sponsoring Registrar: 网络中心
Name Server:idns2.pconline.com.cn
Name Server:idns.pconline.com.cn
Registration Date: 1999-03-17 00:00
Expiration Date: 2011-03-17 00:00

they have been registered since 1999 which is a good sign.

what payment methods do they accept?
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i don't know at all what payement and what price they do... i try to send them a mail to : support@pconline.com.cn, but mail i recive is this :

"Hi. This is the qmail-send program at pconline.com.cn.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out."

so :s
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Ok. I recommend you stay away from them then. Lack of information on the site and the lack of communication are bad signs.
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The web site appears to be a news,prices,guide,reviews for computer information and consumer electronics in China!

I don`t think they sell any products,just a news review site for the IT Industry in China!

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太平洋电脑市场是国内最大的专业电脑联盟,北京中关村北大太平洋科技发展中心、上海徐汇区太平洋电脑市场和 太平洋数码广场、广州太平洋电脑市场一、二期均是当地最大的电脑产品物流集散地和零售商场。1999年推出 的太平洋网(www.pconline.com.cn)是国内首家以专业电脑市场联盟为基础的大型IT资讯导购网站,其超过130万独立IP的日访问量、超过6 0万的稳定会员以及在广大有效及潜在消费者中的口碑,确保了太平洋网在中国 大陆IT资讯网站的翘楚地位。 太平洋电脑市场和太平洋网与广大经销商和消费者一线接触,具有最权威的市场数据来源,但自身并不参与产品经 营,这保证了太平洋IT产品评测具有权威、公正、全面的特点。

This is some information I cited on their website,and now I would like to try my best to translate for you,first I want to tell you that Scott's judge is right!

Pacific Computers Market is the biggest specialised Computers Union,Beijing Zhongguancun Peking University Pacific Tech & Development Center,Shanghai Xuhui District Pacific Computers Market and Pacific Digital Plaza,Guangzhou Pacific Computers Market all are the largest computers products logistic distributing centre and retail shop.The Pacific Online site(www.pconline.com.cn) is the first big IT Review and guidance website which based upon the professional computers market union.Its independent clicks(individual IP address) over 1.3million per day and over 0.6million stable members together with the good reputation in more potentical consumers unsure that the Pacific Online Site is the NO1 IT information site in domestic China.
Pacific Market and the Pacific Online site have contacts with the most sellers (wholesalers and retailers) and the consumers which enable Pacific has the most authoritative market data source,but it doesn't involve in the business(selling or buying ) itself,which guarrantee its test be characteristiced with Authority,Fairness and all-around.

The price on this site is updated every day and most price are from the biggest & best wholesalers in the Chinese market.(only authentic stuff they deal with,the price is quite higher).I have tried to find some authentic stuff to check if this can be exported to outside China,but usually my voice is buried in the lower price of the fakes that people usually overlook.Here I want to specifically remind you buyers to be more cautious when buying from China,please DO not all ways eye on the price,but the identity of the suppliers and the price if it is in a normal sense etc.
I think we all want to make money that is why we come here and have talks here,please note that you will lose more if you want to profit at other's expense.I know some of you are attracted by the supplier who quoted very low price(unbelievable price,I think),at this time you should know there are many,many and many big dealers why don't buy from them? As they are more carful to judge a dealer if it is scammer or not,as any wrong decision will result in big lose to you(your company).I think you small dealers should be more careful than big buyers as you are not more capable of bearing any lose.

2 days ago I have browsed a post on alibaba.com and some friends claimed that they are scammed by supplier in Fujian and Guangzhou etc.lost some about $3000,some is $5000 and some is more,they are too lack of trade skills as they easily trust a supplier and pay by T/T in advance or Western Union,as we know,only the Sales Contract that is protected by law,how the law can protect you if you only have Western Union paper? Here I want to strengthen one point is PLEASE DO NOT EASILY TRUST A GUY ESPECIALY HIS PRICE IS TOO LOW !A Poland friend who are scammed $3000 from a supplier and showed me another supplier(same scammer,I think) website and price,I persuade him to stay away from that supplier as from the website,from the payment terms(100% T/T in advance with 30 thousand dollars and Western Union-these two terms only),I told him you are risking your money and he replied me that the picture is good,my god,how can you judge a supplier from his picture? With the hi-tech(photoshop or some other tools),pictures are easily made very beautiful,only one point I know:His eyes still stay on the price(for example PS3 60G-$319).And a US friend who is scammed $5000 asked me if I can find a lawyer to sue the scammer,I have not get back to him yet but the result would be not good as Economic Law don't protect any other things except legal Sales Contract!So please care more about the supplier's identity,the payment terms and any other aspects that can protect you from being scammed.

Happy New Year!

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太平洋电脑市场是国内最大的专业电脑联盟,北京中关村北大太平洋科技发展中心、上海徐汇区太平洋电脑市场和 太平洋数码广场、广州太平洋电脑市场一、二期均是当地最大的电脑产品物流集散地和零售商场。1999年推出 的太平洋网(www.pconline.com.cn)是国内首家以专业电脑市场联盟为基础的大型IT资讯导购网站,其超过130万独立IP的日访问量、超过6 0万的稳定会员以及在广大有效及潜在消费者中的口碑,确保了太平洋网在中国 大陆IT资讯网站的翘楚地位。 太平洋电脑市场和太平洋网与广大经销商和消费者一线接触,具有最权威的市场数据来源,但自身并不参与产品经 营,这保证了太平洋IT产品评测具有权威、公正、全面的特点。

This is some information I cited on their website,and now I would like to try my best to translate for you,first I want to tell you that Scott's judge is right!

Pacific Computers Market is the biggest specialised Computers Union,Beijing Zhongguancun Peking University Pacific Tech & Development Center,Shanghai Xuhui District Pacific Computers Market and Pacific Digital Plaza,Guangzhou Pacific Computers Market all are the largest computers products logistic distributing centre and retail shop.The Pacific Online site(www.pconline.com.cn) is the first big IT Review and guidance website which based upon the professional computers market union.Its independent clicks(individual IP address) over 1.3million per day and over 0.6million stable members together with the good reputation in more potentical consumers unsure that the Pacific Online Site is the NO1 IT information site in domestic China.
Pacific Market and the Pacific Online site have contacts with the most sellers (wholesalers and retailers) and the consumers which enable Pacific has the most authoritative market data source,but it doesn't involve in the business(selling or buying ) itself,which guarrantee its test be characteristiced with Authority,Fairness and all-around.

The price on this site is updated every day and most price are from the biggest & best wholesalers in the Chinese market.(only authentic stuff they deal with,the price is quite higher).I have tried to find some authentic stuff to check if this can be exported to outside China,but usually my voice is buried in the lower price of the fakes that people usually overlook.Here I want to specifically remind you buyers to be more cautious when buying from China,please DO not all ways eye on the price,but the identity of the suppliers and the price if it is in a normal sense etc.
I think we all want to make money that is why we come here and have talks here,please note that you will lose more if you want to profit at other's expense.I know some of you are attracted by the supplier who quoted very low price(unbelievable price,I think),at this time you should know there are many,many and many big dealers why don't buy from them? As they are more carful to judge a dealer if it is scammer or not,as any wrong decision will result in big lose to you(your company).I think you small dealers should be more careful than big buyers as you are not more capable of bearing any lose.

2 days ago I have browsed a post on alibaba.com and some friends claimed that they are scammed by supplier in Fujian and Guangzhou etc.lost some about $3000,some is $5000 and some is more,they are too lack of trade skills as they easily trust a supplier and pay by T/T in advance or Western Union,as we know,only the Sales Contract that is protected by law,how the law can protect you if you only have Western Union paper? Here I want to strengthen one point is PLEASE DO NOT EASILY TRUST A GUY ESPECIALY HIS PRICE IS TOO LOW !A Poland friend who are scammed $3000 from a supplier and showed me another supplier(same scammer,I think) website and price,I persuade him to stay away from that supplier as from the website,from the payment terms(100% T/T in advance with 30 thousand dollars and Western Union-these two terms only),I told him you are risking your money and he replied me that the picture is good,my god,how can you judge a supplier from his picture? With the hi-tech(photoshop or some other tools),pictures are easily made very beautiful,only one point I know:His eyes still stay on the price(for example PS3 60G-$319).And a US friend who is scammed $5000 asked me if I can find a lawyer to sue the scammer,I have not get back to him yet but the result would be not good as Economic Law don't protect any other things except legal Sales Contract!So please care more about the supplier's identity,the payment terms and any other aspects that can protect you from being scammed.

Happy New Year!

Thomas(Shanghai)
Thank you for your translation. Helps alot
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