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[Man_]

Hi Everyone

Iv recently had many people who claim to be suppliers giving me stories on how i can trsut them because they will provide tracking numbers for the items and then i would send the item through wire WU/Money gram etc.

This seems to be a good idea for me (because once i know its coming then i know im not being scammed, unless a) its a fake tracking number b) the item is not what i needed i.e its just random junk)

Here are some of the comments i got;

1) hello,
For delivery i use the leading provider of business to business express delivery services: ORGANIC DELIVERY (www.organic-delivery.com)
Organic Delivery provides the most comprehensive range of express delivery and distribution servicess anytime, anywhere in the world.
For payment i prefer Money Transfer (Western Union or Banck account). I strat first the delivery, i give you the tracking number and only after you see the tracking number you make the payment.
For your safe you send the confirmation of the payment at ORGANIC DELIVERY and i receive the money after that you check your product.
If you agree this terms register you online here: www.organic-delivery.com for i can strat the delivery.
Thank you!

2) You will receive the shipping confirmation from TNT immediately when I send you the phones
on your name and address and only when you receive that confirmation from TNT your will
deposit the money on my name and address. Ok?
So, in maximum 2 working days the package will be in your hands. As soon as I receive your
full shipping details, the phones will be immediately shipped in a professional way.
I have completed a lot of successful deals using them. If you agree with these terms, please
reply with your full name, home and shipping address in your next email so I can register
the transaction with TNT Team ASAP. I'm waiting for your reply in order to close this deal
with your full name and address like this:
First name:
Last name:
Address:
City:
Province:
Postal Code:
Country:
Telephone:
Hope you are a serious buyer and don't like to waste time with cheap talk .You know that
time is money and is very important for both of us, we don't want to waste it.
Best Regards,

3) The shipping process is not taking more than 24 hours. Also i offer a return POLICY of 15 days with a total refund if you are not satisfaid. Also i offer insurance for all my shippments so if something happens with the package you will get this full insurance (product value + shipping charges). We ship all packages having written on them "display unit, no comercial value" or as a gift so you don't have to pay any additional taxes like customs or dutys.

As for payment and shipping i will use service TNT for delivery.
I want to make this deal safe and i offer you the greate guarantee. Please tell me if you are agree with my offer: I send you first the poducts with TNT Agency, you will receive the shipping invoice confirmation from TNT imediatly when i send you the products on your name and adress and only when you receive this confirmation you will send the money Via Western Union but you confirm the payment to the TNT Agency who send you the invoice for fast delivery.
You will receive the shipping confirmation from TNT imediatly when i send you the phone on your name and adress and only when you receive that confirmation from TNT you will deposit the money on the TNT agent name and adress at Western Union Money Transfer and you confirm the transfer details to TNT email adress who will send you the invoice of shipping. Ok?
TNT will check the package before and after that they will mail you the shipping confirmation.
So, in maximum 2 working day`s the package will be in your hands. As soon as I receive your full shipping details, the phone will be immediately shipped in a professional way.
Please email me with your full name and adress for transaction.
First name:
Last name:
Address:
City:
Province:
zip/code:
Country:
Telephone:
Email me today for transaction asap.

4) Hello,
About the shipping i can tell you that i am using TNT Express. The shipping process is not taking more than 48 hours. Also i offer a return POLICY of 15 days with a total refund if you are not satisfaid. Also i offer insurance for all my shippments so if something happens with the package you will get this full insurance (phones value + shipping charges). We ship all packages having written on them "display unit, no comercial value" or as a gift so you don't have to pay any additional taxes like customs or dutys.
For the payment we accepts only Banking Services like Western Union (international money transfer service) because it is the only one who can satisfy both us and our clients by their Banking BackGround.
I want to make this deal safe and i offer you the greate guarantee. I send you first the phone, you will receive the shipping confirmation from TNT imediatly when i send you the phones on your name and adress and only when you receive this confirmation`s you will send me the money.
Let me know if this is Ok with you, so that we can go forward with this deal!
Best Regards,


What do you guys think? Scammers? Because it seems like a good guarantee but theres nothing stopping hem from sending fakes or simply a box with wrapping paper.

Thanks for any help you can provide

[bargainphones4u]

Hi mate,

Don't get into this rubbish. I got scammed over a £500 buy doing this.

I ordered 5 PS3s and once they sent me the tracking details I sent them the payment. On the tracking details it said a 25 kg box.

After about 2 days of payment the parcel arrived. It was a tiny parcel and no way near it weighed 25kg. There was just a random, old telephone in their.

I am trying to get my money back since I paid through paypal.

You can check the tracking details below:

go to http://www.fedex.com/Tracking?cntry_...k/Track_Number

and type this tacking number in: 790286694400

Don't go after these scammers. They try every trick to get your hard-earned money

I would recommend to look for suppliers in UK especially in LONDON.

[Man_]

Ah i see, yes thats what i thought there is no guarantee on what they send you even after tracking number >_<

[JPB]

Definatly scammers trying to trick you

[greedyboy]

Sorry but this is the oldest trick (bogus shipping/escrow website scam) in the book.

Just with 2 minutes of checking the html I got this page without being ever being issued a tracking number

http://shippingtrade.100free.com/trk...r90145346.html

[Andy-Flashie]

These are a sneaky bunch, If you click to different pages in their website, notice that the url in ur web browser stays at "http://www.organic-delivery.com/" all the time, and doesnt change to http://www.organic-delivery.com/the-page-your-on.html etc like it normally would on a normal website. This is just their 'cover up' domain for their real site domain http://shippingtrade.100free.com which is a free website there using from the company www.100free.com
Now...any so called business who cant even afford to buy there own proper domain and hosting shouldnt be touched...

[BrandDirect]

Scam without a doubt. walk away better still ask him to send items first and then you will pay once received. Theres no chance in hell he'll do it and at least you waste his time instead of yours.

On a side note does anyone watch phonejacker on channel 4.
The African scammer is the funniest sketch on there and it shows how rife business is with scammers that it even features on a tv show