hi many thanks for the info, have been doing hours of research on bona fide chinese suppliers, not getting any where fast, any one heard of freetroncom.limited and wats the feedback.ta

freetro n. com

the whois domain info is okey, the site have many years stablished, but why the contact information on the website is so poor? why a company with so many years on the market only have an email address to be contacted?

they say that they are a factory, but i don`t think that they are a factory, because they sell game consoles, and sony memory stick, only sony have the rights to manufacture sony memory sticks, they allso sell almost all of the games accesories, so they are a trader, they are lying from the begining, telling that they are a factory.


is very strange that they don`t have phone, fax numbers, contact persons, etc

is very strange the part which says email us, and tell us the quantity to order?

please let me know if you get more information about this supplier, is very strange that they say that they have engineers and their own production line, and offices in the usa , but they don`t show their address, and their phones, don`t you think so?

there are many dilemmas in the world.
sometimes, risky action with preparation bring profits

Originally Posted by tapeandlabel

there are many dilemmas in the world.
sometimes, risky action with preparation bring profits

but most times buying branded items from China brings financial loss, disappointment, a criminal record and time spent in a small room with restricted lighting and access

Originally Posted by geosamm

but most times buying branded items from China brings financial loss, disappointment, a criminal record and time spent in a small room with restricted lighting and access

i think you are just heard a lot of such stories.
If it is "most times", there will be no international trade between China and other countries.
You had of stories of financial loss because bad news run fast and this is also a warning.
Nobody would like to say that they have made successful business with the supplier, whether it come from China, Thailand, India etc because successful business should be normal thing, not by chance

you are correct about business should not be about chance..... but there is no chance of buying branded items from China.
Read the topics in the forum and tell me it does not happen.... read the stories in other forums and tell me its not a widespread problem.
If you think international trade would be affected by scammers you are naive at best at worst.... well......
I do not know all the chinese business men...... or all the chinese businesses..... but I do know a few.... and if pressed they will admit that the branded items they sell are NOT genuine..... there have also been chinese forum users who have admitted the same
I dont have that much of a problem with fakes.... I neither buy or sell them.... they are not worth the risk..... some people do and they run the risks I outlined above.... but why dont chinese businesses tell the truth..... that the items they sell are fakes/copies and sell to the people who want to buy them and run the risks above.... saves time.... expense..... wasted energy..... and people dont get conned???

yes, you are right in this way. There is no genuine brand from China sold through internet.
China also produce genuine brand, eg Leveno to IBM; but if you want to buy this, you should buy from the authorized agent or distributor
Copy is, sometimes, risky.

copies/fakes are "illegal" not just risky... and ALL the risks are taken by the BUYER not the seller.....
who takes the risks when buying them..... when importing them...... when advertising them..... and when selling them.
To run risks of that magnitude I personally would want a damn site more profit than is obtainable.... if I was a gambling man that is...... Im not..... but I know a lot of Chinese who are.

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Last edited by geosamm; 04-08-2008 at 05:36 AM.

haha, some here and some there. but I personally hate scammer, not the whole people.
And I will stop here. thank you.

Originally Posted by tapeandlabel

i think you are just heard a lot of such stories.
If it is "most times", there will be no international trade between China and other countries.
You had of stories of financial loss because bad news run fast and this is also a warning.
Nobody would like to say that they have made successful business with the supplier, whether it come from China, Thailand, India etc because successful business should be normal thing, not by chance

Is there a site/forum, which lists reliable/turstworthy (NON-SCAMMIN') suppliers?
It's too bad we use a lot of effort bashing and helping newbies avoid scammers by listing their names and providing them with free publicity, but we don't provide suggestions and options of WHERE to go and names of REPUTABLE suppliers.