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Basic Due Diligence Steps for Sourcing Products from Abroad!

Discussion in 'Supplier Discussion' started by tantk, Jul 14, 2006.

  1. theimporter

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    Couple of things I would like to add:

    (1) Just because someone uses a free email account (gmail etc) that does not mean they are not a bonafide vendor, I deal with a lot of factories not wholesalers or agents but factories, big ones at that, guess what alot of the key staff use free email servers because they are more likley to get the email on time and be able to access it where ever they are etc, if you have used the net in china you will understand why they use free email, it is reliable!

    (2) If a chinese vendor wants to rip you off then all the checks and counter checks in the world will not help you, most sting artists will entice people by making sure they seem like the best vendor in the planet until your orders become sizable and you start trusting them, then bang, out of no where you have lost a considerable amount of money.

    (3) Having people on the ground is key so that the vendor knows if they mess about people in their own country will come looking for them etc I dont think many would break sweat having read heated emails or getting calls from abroad, funny how all of a sudden they may not be able to understand you.

    International trade is fill of risk and reward, you can check and check and check but if the person on the other side has evil intent then nothing can stop them from conning you.

    Take everything with a pinch of salt, use secure payment methods where you can and have faith in god!

    Alternativley let my staff in HK and China help you export, we are UK based so no need for international calls and staying up all night to email for answers.

    Best Regards

    Khalid
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  2. jaybyrd

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    Thanks for the information
  3. Businessinchina

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    An on-site Auditing &Inspection and A pre-shipment QC inspection before delivery is very necessary if your order is large enough in China!
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    Freeze Dried Food Looking for Partner in Europe

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  5. Aaron Chiang

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    Thank you so much!!! These information is really helpful to me.
  6. 2clixx

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    Thanks for the advice, useful stuff
  7. sweilem

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    Re: Basic Due Deligence steps for Sourcing Products from Abroad !

    my advice to anyone is to go in person always, believe me i have been to some places that even in person they will cheat u, you order something and at night they change the merchandise with rejected ones, im talking about garments here, like body building, no pain no gain, same with business i think.
    i would love to share my tips with you guys, but got to run now...
  8. mychinapal

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    Re: Basic Due Deligence steps for Sourcing Products from Abroad !

    Try to say you will pay by Escrow only as it is the first time, scammers hate escrow payment. Chances are more to find out potential issues by some more phone calls and some more questions if scammer are under "escrow" pressure. It is nothing wrong to ask for escrow payment as both side need some more time to build trust.

    It is indeed very important to do these checks. Just put a note, it is true many china factories haven't a clue why they need a company email, and many factories change the factory address too without changing the registered information, so they are not neccesserilly bad guys if some of the checks looks not good.
  9. Businessinchina

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    Re: Basic Due Deligence steps for Sourcing Products from Abroad !

    The best way is to book our Basic Verification, Factory Auditing service or Quality Control Inspection service from us to protect your interests in China. We are working for foreign companies in China every day and we are a VIP member at Ministry of Commerce, the People's Republic of China, please have a look at www.bizinchina.cc

    We are simply acting as your own Office, assistants and eyes etc and our mission is to save you more and reduce the risks in your business in China!

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  10. jitverify.com

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    Re: Basic Due Deligence steps for Sourcing Products from Abroad !

    Yes, try to say you will use a QC to check the products before you pay, just say how they responde.
    We protect the interests of Western companies by providing a full range of high quality verifications of claims by Chinese companies.
  11. chloe5

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    Re: Basic Due Deligence steps for Sourcing Products from Abroad !

    Re: Basic Due Diligence Steps

    Thanks for the tips. I have been trying to do basic due diligence, and have some familiarity but still wonder how much more I could have done by way of due diligence.

    We just ordered a package of lutein, lycopene, and beta-carotene, 95% HPLC from China.

    We were assured by email it would come with UPS documentation, contained within 1g packages, marked with the weight and substance eg lutein 1g

    We drew a description of the marking we required on request.

    We have received the shipment and there is no documentation, there is no marking on the packages.

    We paid for this through paypal. It can't possibly be re-sold as is.

    I am going to email the manufacturer however I am concerned that they assured us that all these things would be attended to, but they have flagrantly ignored these instructions, having explicitly stated they would address all these issues.

    Any suggestions would be welcome.

    We are in Australia.
  12. irobber7

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    Re: Basic Due Deligence steps for Sourcing Products from Abroad !

    Thanks for the helpful information.
  13. prodicalson

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    Re: Basic Due Deligence steps for Sourcing Products from Abroad !

    hi guys the words ''LET THE BUYER BEWARE'' Springs to mind Even though my wife and i are resourcers in China we believe that if possible that you can start with small orders for a period and develop a good respect and relationship with your contact, this will offer you in particular a kind of 'safety net' where should you fall into the fraudulent or disreputable hand of your supplier/manufacturer the loss is minimal and they have lost a good cause.
    I must extend here that we are here to assist should you wish to persue this suggestion.
    regards
    christopher and linna
  14. jitverify.com

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    Re: Basic Due Deligence steps for Sourcing Products from Abroad !

    Yes, I agree. Start with sample or small order first. Do not wire much deposit, if you will be in a bad situation, you have no way to get your money back. But if you do much homework at the beginning, it will reduce the risks.
  15. hlgccbirds

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    Re: Basic Due Deligence Steps for Sourcing Products from Abroad!

    How would I go about finding a chinese agent to work on my behalf? :\ I need to have someone navigate the waters for me.
  16. jitverify.com

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    Re: Basic Due Deligence Steps for Sourcing Products from Abroad!

    You have two choices,
    1. find a freelancer to work for you. The advantage is the cost is low, the disadvantage is that the service quality is not guaranteed.

    2. find a company to be your agent in China. the cost maybe a little higher than freelancer but you can get guaranteed services.
  17. KOD Solutions

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    Re: Basic Due Deligence Steps for Sourcing Products from Abroad!

    We would be happy to help you out. Feel free to contact me anytime for further discussions. However, we are not a Chinese agency company. we are a Western owned Company based out of China.
  18. gadgetssound

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    Re: Basic Due Deligence Steps for Sourcing Products from Abroad!

    Hello i totally agree with the whole free e-mail address point and tend to stay away from those suppliers when i can.But I stupidly enough got caught by a big company.
  19. wendyhe81

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    Re: Basic Due Deligence Steps for Sourcing Products from Abroad!

    Some companies also use the same number as their tel and fax, means very small business, should be careful when deal with them.

    By the way, I am native Chinese and worked in a local chinese trading company for 5 years. We never had problems to find new clients, and on the opposite we received too many RFQ everyday, so our boss told us that if the RFQ sent by personal emal address like hotmail, yahoo, aol, then they should be our priority. :rolleyes:
  20. wendyhe81

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    Re: Basic Due Deligence Steps for Sourcing Products from Abroad!

    Sorry, shouldn't be ......
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