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Ipod and PSP Scammers

Discussion in 'Bad Supplier Experiences' started by guru4us, Jun 2, 2005.

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  1. guru4us

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    These two items are selling in the market like crazy. The point of this section of the forum is that we would like people to step up and tell us who are scammers on these two items. If you have been scammed or suspect someone to be a scammer (with some form of proof), on these two items or any other item for that matter, please post it here and give us some information so that no one else will get scammed.

    Even the best get scammed, and I personally know what its like to loose hard earned money. Hence, this post.

    So again everyone please post any fake suppliers or your experience with any inlegit supplier i.e. NAME AND SHAME them!!

    Here's a few rules to keep in mind:

    Ipods are usually not available for wholesale. Apple only sells to licensed retailers, so if you come across someone claiming to sell Ipods, be VERY carefull.

    PSPs are available at wholesalers but profit margins on those are usually not very good, so keep that in mind!

    As a rule of thumb: if its too good to be true, then it isnt and trust your instincts.
    If you find a supplier's website, why not try the following site to verify the domain and registrant's details:
    http://www.networksolutions.com/en_...nid=0AK1VGMLVDSLOCWMEAQSFFA?_requestid=266220
  2. guru4us

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  3. orrmate

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    Ok i better put this on. Now this guy has many different sites, so i cant tell you a certain website because they're always changing, i'm just saying watch out for this t*sser. His name is Paramveer Takher. He was the guy running www.electricaldropship.co.uk and he came on this forum as someone named bada_bing. He's had many websites, a lot of which have since been shut down:

    www.electricaldropship.co.uk
    www.itprofits.co.uk
    www.hpm-enterprises.co.uk
    www.electricalstyle.co.uk

    Remember, always do a whois:

    http://www.domaindiscount24.com/?page=service_whoisresults&domain=&server=
  4. MustHaveMobiles

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    Can I suggest a thread for each website?

    Otherwise it will become one massive thread that has to be read as opposed to a quick reference guide, ie. scan the title!

    Mike
  5. Marctwo

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    I guess however it's done, people will be looking for a particular domain name; In which case they should just search the 'Name and Shame' forum for occurances. ;)

    But yes, a thread each or maybe just different threads for different product types would be easier to navigate.
  6. guru4us

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    Yeah, new threads would make it easier to search. So, if you just start a new thread with the name of the site in the Title everyone, that would be great.

    Thanks
  7. Enrique

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    This two companys are fruadalent

    John Green Comunications Limited
    this are the names they use:
    1 John Green
    2 Bob Kelly
    3 Martind Billmans
    4 John Bruce

    Ataris Global LTD
    Ferdandin Damanik
    Monia

    I know that because i lost a lot of money with them

    i hope this information is usefull for you guys

    Thanks
  8. guru4us

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    Thanks Enrique and welcome to the forum. Can I just also add that please do not post the same thing in every mobile phone thread. I realise you are knew, hence i wont delete your posts.

    Thanks
  9. businessfirm

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    This company doesn't exist.
    MobilesUnivers
    Madrid - Barcelona - Costa del Sol - Sevilla - Jerez Edificio Mercurio 1ª pl. Ofic. M-2, Paseo Cerrado de Calderón
    29018 Málaga (HEAD OFFICE) , SPAIN
    E-mail: mobilesunivers@yahoo.com
    Tel./Fax: +34933960822
    Contact from gsmstock.com
  10. guru4us

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    i stand corrected:D thanks businessfirm
  11. the ipod kid

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    hi but arent bank transers easy to track down... also has anyone heard of centrapay... a canada based paypal thing... is it legit...
  12. MustHaveMobiles

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    Its not hard to set up a bank account using false details (not that I would do it :rolleyes: hehe.) All it takes are some clever fraudualent documents and the majority of high street banks will open an account there and then. Cant talk for overseas accounts but would assume the same techniques can be used.

    Therefore the trackable nature of the bank deposit is no real safety net against the professional spammers.

    No idea about centrapay, try googling it as it does tend to turn up some information.

    Mike
  13. Leonardo_S

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    So what is the 100% iron-clad guarantee that you can have of someone's legitimicy? If there is one of course...........
  14. Anthony

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    There isn't one in my experience, but I would always opt for cash on delivery or pickup to be one of the safest.

    Others may have their's, but that is mine.
  15. guru4us

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    for some degree of legitimicy, you need the following:
    1) references from companies who trade with them and BANK references to check out their credit standing. The bank info on companies isnt kept secret (i think)
    2) ask for some kind of government documents like their business registration details, tax id/VAT registration etc
    3) current tracking numbers
    4) tell them u want to do a personal inspection. if they dont allow then, then push for an SGS inspection. if they dont allow either...run away and take a shower
    5) there's nothing wrong with home based businesses but be more vary of them, as they only tend to give away cell phone numbers, no fax, no warehouse etc..

    If the person you are dealing with wont let u check the stock personally, then there could be 1 of 2 reasons
    a) they're a scam
    b) they're brokering the deal. in that case, make sure u get some paperwork involved like who's responsible for loss of goods...etc

    Thats all i could think about off the top of my head
  16. Anthony

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    Great Advice Harry.. :)

    Pld Mate..
  17. MustHaveMobiles

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    When it comes to Ipod and PSP sellers (as per thread) ...........NONE.

    May be a harsh statement but the payoffs of such scams are so large (potentially) that the scammers are finding, and investing in, more and more elaborate ways to make the payment side of things more secure..gone are the days of simply dropping WU in and getting away with it.

    It comes down to common sense and not getting overly greedy (stupid prices), it is hard but the leg work it takes to provide a decent supplier pays off in the long run.

    Mike
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  19. Rafi

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    www.reksaarcad.com

    Pay attention to this site.

    They are professional scammers.
    Now they've got new names at alibaba.com.
    Former names: Sandy Yovan, Donny Hendrik
    Company name: Reksa Arcade, supposed to be located in Indonesia, Ambon Maluku
    website: *******************
  20. guru4us

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    Rafi, those guys are already in name and shame.
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