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Time to Put a ban On some items being sold here?

Discussion in 'Forum Support & Feedback' started by Popcorn, Sep 15, 2008.

  1. geosamm

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    Might be a little difficult to get a container wrapped,packed, fumigated and shipped from here to UK in 7 days. Takes 2 days to get it to bangkok port. Unless they send a Fred Olson catamaran for it.
  2. hardwareheroes

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    ^^^For the win !
  3. Anthony

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    As some of you are aware, I am currently on annual leave but I have noted this thread and will ensure it is brought up for debate when I return.

    I also agree that further steps must be taken to attempt to make our marketplace more secure for our members and I am committed to doing so.
  4. lemonwonder

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    One thing I think may help, is to create a limit, perhaps 1000 posts before you can advertise.. If it was something small like 50 or 100... I could do that in a day.. I plan to advertise soon, I am legit but will not actually see my stock apart from test samples of it.
  5. MitchNZ

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    I think brokering should be banned, even though I have considered it. I have never bought anything here or sold anything but if I did I would not go near anything brokered, if something goes wrong there's big problems. If your not prepared to risk holding stock that's your problem.

    Also I don't think the posts idea is a good one no offense, can't see it helping. Your ability to do buisniss should not be based on how much crap you've posted. Remember NorthyImports, he had a lot of post, brokered and caused a big problem. His story pretty much backs up everything I've said.
  6. lemonwonder

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    Brokering should be okay. As long as people agree to take responsibility for it, it just simply saves a shipping cost. And shipping costs to New Zealand then to other customers, it is just getting quite high that the best price cannot be supplied.
    If the user is legit, and is prepared to take responsibility for what they legally have to, and makes sure they state the terms of sale properly it should be fine. The difference between coming to my house then yours, or from there to yours, just a large shipping cost. All the responsibilities (in my case) are still held, and nobody will be told to simply bring it up to the supplier, I will personally ensure the error is fixed.

    Having a few posts, doesn't mean you are necessarily a good seller, but it may stop a few scammers that pay the 30$, come on, sell 2k worth of fake product and leave.
  7. AnyTshirt

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    What diffrence does it make 100 posts or a 1000 some one could get 1000 posts we all think he/she is fine do deal with as they have been here a long time get an advertisng account and rip all of us off.
  8. AnyTshirt

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    I broker some sotck what harm has it done but now most of my stock will be physical.
  9. D M

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    The fact is the majority of the time deals have gone wrong on this forum are due to brokered stock.
  10. lemonwonder

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    Just my opinion, not saying yours is wrong etc. But yeah, would it not stop anybody from just logging on with a new account and making a scam post... some scammers couldn't be stuffed making 1000 posts... so they wouldn't bother scamming here... But yeah then again still could get scam but IN THEORY (haven't been here long so reality unsure) it should stop some scammers.
  11. geosamm

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    I held no stock at all for the last years of business... did most of my advertising by word of mouth only and shipped many containers from here to europe....
    I would never consider holding enough stock to fill 4 or 5.... 40' hightop containers...
    I negotiated many an order change mid production because the customer had changed his mind about quantity and product.
    Probably shipped over 1000 different products.
    Never lost a shipment, never lost a customer, only ever had one delayed delivery because of a storm off africa.
    Always got the customer what he wanted or a replacement of his choice if not available.
    Never charged the customer for my services until container was ready to be shipped.
    Never charged more than I stated I would, never scammed a customer or cheated him by over pricing or adding cost onto shipment.
    Whatever the customer wanted he got, but he paid for it.
    I brokered every deal between my customer and the manufacturers/shippers.
    I even drove 1000 miles to do a deal for a customer who wanted a specific item from just outside Bangkok.
    Whats wrong with brokering?
    Its the person you deal with and trust thats important.

    I dont mind a clamp down on sellers.... but maybe it should be applied to buyers too.... as it is a wholesale forum.... how about minimum order quantities being raised to wholesale standard.... no more 1 / 5 / 10 buys.... how about starting the MOQ at 100.... or 50 for larger items... or how about banning products that are high risk... or how about banning branded items because there is a good chance that people will import from china to sell themselves or sell on.
  12. hardwareheroes

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    Worms....can of.....this entire subject is.
  13. geosamm

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    Maybe true... but if people have strong feelings... as long as they are not knee jerk reactions.... I think they should be aired.... providing they avoid tarring everyone with the same brush....

    A scammer is a scammer even if he pretends to hold physical stock
  14. hardwareheroes

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    Can't disagree with you there my friend!
  15. Pete

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    I see there is a new brokered deal being offered here on TWF.

    These are the worst, so often people with good intentions get themselves in situations they can't handle.

    Best to avoid them.
  16. greedyboy

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    You are using the wrong shippers then.
  17. greedyboy

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    Sorry I disagree. The majority of brokers do not hold stock as they either do not have the funds or the balls to actually physically hold stock.

    If this isn't the case, the broker should not take any money until the stock is in hand. I can't see that happening, can you?
  18. greedyboy

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    That is fair enough, you were a genuine business/sourcing agent.

    No offence, but the majority of 'brokers' here are people with no money, no business sense, operating out of a bedroom and can't every spell V.A.T let alone work out the concept of VAT.

    There is a world of difference between the two.

    I deal with a handful of brokers in China all the time for convenience. A trading company is essentially that. I have no problems whatsoever dealing with them.
  19. Pete

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    Will you be holding backorders on Didley Squat, or should I place my entire Christmas order now?
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  20. Oliver

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    is Didley squat a brokered deal?!
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